BiLock, easier than Medeco...

[scorche]

Well then... That was fun. Had a few days with Schulyer and his lock collection and decided to work on a BiLock 2nd gen cylinder he had. After a good 3 days of going at it, this resulted: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pHc6c64DOM

[globallockytoo]

Well done!

Prior knowledge of the depths certainly helps doesnt it?

Would like to see you do one without prior knowledge of the depths.

(just teasing)

[Major Boothroyd]

Congrats on picking one beast of a lock

[scorche]

Prior knowledge of the depths certainly helps doesnt it?

Not when we lose the key in one of our multiple lock-containing bags (and trombone case) so I couldn't look at it until the last day which was after I had already been picking the lock for a while...

[jgor]

Awesome job scorche! Heh, now that I see it can be done I have no excuse not to pick our club's new bilock >_>

[zeke79]

How about a new video with a disassembly afterwords showing the pins being removed and the true/false cuts in each pin and show the sidebars to ensure no alterations have been made to the sidebars . It's just good business to show a disassembly after picking a very high security lock such as this one.

I have a video of myself picking an old generation 12 pin bilock but my cam was dying so the video slows and then speeds up quite often during the video due to the motor belt slipping then speeding up and then catching the tape pickup. This makes the video seem choppy so I never have posted it anywhere as I dont want to have any doubt that the lock was altered or the video was altered. I wish I could redo the video but I have since sold the lock. The video did however show a full disassembly at the end of the video to show pins and sidebars to prove the sidebars were not altered and that all chambers were loaded with a pin.

[globallockytoo]

I can attest to the authenticity of that cylinder as I built it. (Assuming they did not alter it - which I have no reason to do).

[zeke79]

I can attest to the authenticity of that cylinder as I built it. (Assuming they did not alter it - which I have no reason to do).

Good enough for me global .

[globallockytoo]

Prior knowledge of the depths certainly helps doesnt it?

Not when we lose the key in one of our multiple lock-containing bags (and trombone case) so I couldn't look at it until the last day which was after I had already been picking the lock for a while...

So did you pick it before you saw the key....or after? This statement is unclear above.

[raimundo]

just to clarify, how many depths are there on a bi lock? Ive had a few copies of the lock, but never a copy of the key, and I don't know where those bi locks are now.

strikes me that there may be only about 4 depths on those locks.
Who has the solid info.

[globallockytoo]

just to clarify, how many depths are there on a bi lock? Ive had a few copies of the lock, but never a copy of the key, and I don't know where those bi locks are now.

strikes me that there may be only about 4 depths on those locks.
Who has the solid info.

You are correct!

[globallockytoo]

Prior knowledge of the depths certainly helps doesnt it?

Not when we lose the key in one of our multiple lock-containing bags (and trombone case) so I couldn't look at it until the last day which was after I had already been picking the lock for a while...

So did you pick it before you saw the key....or after? This statement is unclear above.

Still wondering?

Is the cylinder doctored? it seems too easy on that video.....based on my memory of the combination.

[scorche]

Is the cylinder doctored? it seems too easy on that video.....based on my memory of the combination.

A-ha! A direct question! It seems this has gone on long enough and it is time to come clean although we didn't quite get all the reaction we had hoped for.

As many of you already know and have known from the start, the lock only had 2 pins in it and all one has to do to open it is lift the left pin up just a tad bit and the lock is open.

The purpose of this was more of a joke and to see what some people's reactions were as well as what one of the people "in-the-know" stated earlier. "It's just good business to show a disassembly after picking a very high security lock such as this one." Read zeke's post again! With all of the popularity of the sport lately and the attitudes of some, it would not be surprising for a number of very high-security cylinders to be "picked" and a video thrown up on somewhere (youtube seems to be a great place for this lately, unfortunately). Videos of this nature really need to show a disassembly of the lock afterward in one cut. It just seemed like a reminder (and a little fun) was in order, though this is not the particular community I had in mind when I consider who could use this lesson the most... A healthy dose of skepticism is always good!

As a note, I firmly believe this lock is pickable and once I manage to get my hands on one of my own, I will attempt to show that.

[jgor]

/me puts his Bilock back up on the shelf and goes to find a nice corner to cry in

[scorche]

/me puts his Bilock back up on the shelf and goes to find a nice corner to cry in

Pfft! Come on...you can still do it!