Schlage Everest: Rose Tightening

[David_Parker]

I have a Schlage F-Series doorlock, and the rose doesn't seem to tighten. Any suggestions? I'm about to go to a locksmith.

-Dave.

[CaptHook]

If not sure on the lockset you have, the f refers to the keyway. If it is a commercial style lockset, the rose on the key side is just threaded, make sure you dont have it cross threaded on there. On the other side, there should be a mounting plate and a snap on rose, look closely, there should be a spring about 7 oclock depending on how the knobset is mounted that needs to be lined up before it can be snapped in place.
Hope this helps.
Chuck

[HeadHunterCEO]

U need to use the tool that came with the lock that looks lke a large thimble.

look on the interior side or where it fits and tighten it up.

[locksmistress]

The F-Series isn't necessarily the keyway - it's an actual lock series. I'm pretty sure they ran A-L with most of those having been discontinued.

The F-series is their lowest quality residential lockset. It is cheap in manufacture and composed primarily of pop metal - more like plastic than anything else. In addition , they now also sport a 'compressible' cylinder.

The quality and price do not seem to be terribly disparate. If it really is an F-Series and not an F - keyway, it is much cheaper to replace than to service.

I haven't run into any F-locks with a separate rose though - they usually just have the two sides that screw into each other from the interior. So maybe not.

[CaptHook]

Well see, thats what was confusing me when he first asked the question. Thats why I was going on the premise of it being a commercial lockset with an f keyway.
Chuck

[gaplock]

WHOA people, mistress is correct the F series is just a screw on lockset. The rose IS NOT adjustible. And F is for the series not keyway. What head hunter is talking about is for the comercial version or D series there is a thimble like wrench that tightens down a threaded locking ring. there is no snap on spring for the inside rose of an F series. Go to your local locksmith they will hook you up.

FYI all schlage F series have a "C" keyway

[Varjeal]

Just a quick clarification...Most any Schlage lockset can potentially have any Schlage keyway depending on the locksmith, which means an F-Series lock CAN have a Schlage "F" keyway...confusing yet?

[gaplock]

thats not true Varjeal.
F series only comes in "C"
Because of its distinctive built in ovular tailpiece Schlage only makes it in a "C" keyway.

Almost any other Schlage lock you can swap plugs or fit a new cylinder to it, but not F series.

[locksmistress]

Unless...

I believe the old 5-pin deadbolt cylinders are available (or were) in alternate keyways. You can use an S-series driver on those and it will (mostly) function in an F-series lever (haven't tried it in a knob, and it would for sure not work in one of the new 'compressible' knobs).

When the compressible F-cylinders first came out we had a lot of failures in the lever sets - due to various pesky laws of physics and the presence of gravity, they did not function reliably in a horizontal position. As stopgap measure we used the 5-pins cylinders with S-drivers while waiting for factory correction.

But from the factory you can only get the F-series in 5-pin Schlage C.

[gaplock]

I'm with you on that one LockMistress, the compressible design was totally crap when it came out, the retainer cap would get stuck down and just lots of problems all around in one week 5 customers brought their Knob sets back to the shop, and they were all cylinder related problems. Why does IR have to mess wiht things...."If it ain't broke don't fix it" should have left the F series alone.