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Schlage tension tools

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Schlage tension tools

Postby 5thcorps » 31 Dec 2008 13:03

Hello all,
Over the years I've been picking schlages easily enough with my standard tools. But as of late I've been having trouble with the tension wrench jamming against the cylinder housing preventing the plug from turning when it is actually picked. The wrench seems to wedge itself in there and has made me think several times now that the pins are still binding when they are actually set. What wrenches do you guys use to prevent jamming? :?:
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Re: Schlage tension tools

Postby datagram » 31 Dec 2008 13:54

Create a small tension bend with the other side of your normal tension wrenches with a pair of plyers. Use that to tension from the top of the keyway rather than the bottom. This is useful on many locks, including Schlage. This also gives you more room to work in the keyway and slightly better tension because you're tensioning from a central location, rather than at the bottom of the plug.

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Re: Schlage tension tools

Postby 5thcorps » 31 Dec 2008 16:25

We'll try that
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Re: Schlage tension tools

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Re: Schlage tension tools

Postby zeke79 » 31 Dec 2008 21:27

datagram wrote:Create a small tension bend with the other side of your normal tension wrenches with a pair of plyers. Use that to tension from the top of the keyway rather than the bottom. This is useful on many locks, including Schlage. This also gives you more room to work in the keyway and slightly better tension because you're tensioning from a central location, rather than at the bottom of the plug.

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+1 here on datagram's advice. Peterson makes a nice set of tension tools called the flat 5's that are great for tensioning from top of keyways. Great advice on modifying a standard wrench to try top tensioning out as it does take some getting used to but it does offer great feedback as you are tensioning closer to the centerline of the plug.
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Re: Schlage tension tools

Postby raimundo » 1 Jan 2009 12:01

Start grabbing any old windshield wipers you find out behind the full service garage, the stainless stiffeners that are in them come in a variety of widths, and most of them are rounded and smooth on the edges, you can find wiper stock to make wider wrench blades as well as smaller ones, the stock really has a lot of variation accross the various brands
Cut a piece about three to four inches long, and use a file to round and smooth the cut ends, then bend a blade on one end and put a twist on it just for a flat area at the end of the wrench to put your finger on.
definatly dress those cut ends before bending.
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Re: Schlage tension tools

Postby tballard » 1 Jan 2009 22:14

Hello all, I'm extremely new to lockpicking (~2-3 weeks) so please take everything I say with a huge grain of salt.

At this point I find it much easier to pick the cheap Schlage locks (no security pins) if i apply the wrench to the top of the keyway. None of my standard wrenches really work well for the task though. (I've got a SouthOrd 14-piece set and a growing assortment of homemade tools) I just made a new set of tension/turning tools which help me greatly, and thought I would post a brief explanation of what I did. If there is interest, I can put together a more detailed post later.

(Please keep in mind a lot of this is based on the tools/materials I had available, and there may be many undesirable things about my approach, especially how I make the right angle bend for the wrench. Suggestions and critique are more than welcome!)

I wanted a tool which gripped the top of the keyway firmly, resisted slipping, and felt natural. Here's what I came up with:

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The base material is a length of 10 gauge (0.102 inch) steel wire. In my case, the donor material was some left over "Landscape Fabric Staples" used to pin down that black weed-stop fabric. (About $2 USD for 5 or so at Home Depot)

The first step was to put a sharp 90 degree bend in the wire. To accomplish this, I used a method which may not be ideal, but worked the best of the the various experiments I tried. I started by cutting a very shallow V-shaped notch in the wire where the inside corner of the bend would be, leaving about 1.5 inches of wire on the short end to work with. I used a cut-off wheel and a dremel, but a file would probably work just as well.

Next, I heated the notched section of wire over a propane torch with a pencil nozzle until it was a nice cherry red.

Once the notched area was red, I quickly gripped the wire on either side, a little less than an inch from the notch with pliers, and bent in the 90 degree angle. It took me a couple of failed attempts to get a technique which yielded a good bend, and I personally found pushing slightly up/into the bend improved my results.

The bend was then quenched in water,

Next, I clamped the wire down to my workbench with the short end of the "L" sticking up perpendicular to the surface of the bench. I used a decent sized hand file to work the inside corner and edges into a nice, sharp 90 degree angle. The file I used is about an inch wide and and 1/8 of an inch thick, so it cuts a perfect profile.

With the inner edges flattened out, I used a bench grinder to put a matching flat on the outside edge. I stopped before the "business end" was quite thin enough to fit in the keyway, and used a cutoff wheel to cut the short end of the tool down to a hair longer than the distance from the from of the plug to the first pin. (You can use the top of a key to gauge this easily)

Then I refined the end slowly with the file (on the inside edge) and grinder (on the outside edge) until the business end fit snugly into the top of the keyway. The result is a tool you have to push in with about the same force as you would turn a wrench.

Finally, I used the bench grinder to trim down the business end of the tool until it was just a hair shorter than the distance to the first pin (to avoid binding) and rounded the edges just a tad.

Finishing was done with fine sandpaper and a bit of heat shrink tubing. The final sanding bring the tool down to a thickness which slides into the keyway without any effort, but which engages as tightly as a shimmed in wrench.

A few things to note:

1. I'm REALLY new to all this, so I may be giving bad advice
2. The cutting a notch before making the bend seems a bit dubious to me, but I figure the entire compromised portion of the wire is filed away anyway, so the tool perhaps doesn't lose too much strength. Mine are completely rigid, and I have no concern about the tool bending even under heavy pressure.
3. It's easy to overshoot the tight fit into the keyway. If you do this, remember that other keyways (such as on a Master 140 or the Brinks Shrouded which torments me) are narrower, and you can just turn the tool into one for those locks. (Heh... not that I would know from experience... no sir... :D )

This isn't quite the first post I had in mind, but I thought I'd contribute if possible.
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