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Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby spoolspanker » 28 Dec 2008 23:01

just found a 532, be back soon on the results :o
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby femurat » 29 Dec 2008 12:05

squelchtone wrote:
femurat wrote:I couldn't pick it until I tried this: after opening it with the key, I left the arc open and turned back the cylinder. Then I could pick it with almost no force on the wrench.
After this I tried again with the arc closed and it required much more force to set the pins and pick it.


I believe it will take the same amount of force to set the pins. What you're experiencing is a need for much more rotational force to overcome the locking mechanism's spring in order to pop the shackle (what you called an arc)

A good method I have used in this situation is rocking or wobbling my tension wrench from light to medium pressure as I pick the lock. You will notice as you pick that suddenly the plug will rotate just a few more degrees than normal, signaling that the cylinder is picked to shear line, then you can apply much more pressure in order to overcome the spring and turn the cylinder and pop open the shackle.

try this out and let us know how it works for you,

Squelchtone


I tried again to open the lock with the key. If I start turning the key and I release it half way, the mechanism turns back and the lock is closed again.
The lock mechanism pull the plug back until it's closed. This is the reason why I need much more force to pick the lock with the shackle closed.
If I try the same thing with the shackle opened, the key stay in the position I
leave it.

Anyway, I tried to follow your suggestion about the wobbling tension. I don't know why but it works! I can pick this lock a lot quicker than with constant tension.

I tried a small diamond, a diamond, a small hook, a bogota and a ball. The best choice for this lock seems to be the ball pick. My bogota is too big to work within this keyhole.
I start with spp and wobbling tension, when I think the lock is picked but it's still closed, I give the pins a little brass and the plug moves a little, exactly as you said!

Thanks a lot Squelchtone :)
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby talbuz » 6 Jan 2009 5:42

This is a great resource, thanks!

Before I saw this thread I opened a new one in Questions asking where I can generally get such info on locks. Also had a query about 141D but Hydruh has answered it, has two spools.

It seems we cant get accurate info on locks based their official labelling? The 4-pin 141D is labelled on the package as Maximum Security, I would have thought that would mean all spools or serrated not just 2. Maybe it refers also to how saw resistant the body is.
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby Jaakko » 6 Jan 2009 14:42

talbuz wrote:Maximum Security

Means nothing. "maximum"...compared to what? "security"...in their dreams :D
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby talbuz » 6 Jan 2009 16:01

What? But I picked that lock? You mean I havent actually reached the pinnacle of lock-picking skill...

:D I guess the Maximum there means Maximum Marketing!
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby Jaakko » 6 Jan 2009 17:40

talbuz wrote::D I guess the Maximum there means Maximum Marketing!

Yeah :) Whenever a lock package says "maximum" on it, it literally screams for picking :P
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby Locke Lamora » 22 Jan 2009 15:07

i've searched through this thread (and others) and used the search feature, but i haven't found any info (how many pins, what kind of spools, etc.) on a master lock no. 150 (i found info on ML no. 140, 142 and 160 but no 150). anyone have any info that can help me? thanks.
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Postby christianwins » 25 Jan 2009 7:17

Alchemic_Revolt wrote:Masterlock No. 40 pins: 4 security: yes


Is there any information on what kind of security pins they are to research that further? (searching for specific numbers of locks doesn't work)
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby ToolyMcgee » 26 Jan 2009 21:50

Locke Lamora wrote:i've searched through this thread (and others) and used the search feature, but i haven't found any info (how many pins, what kind of spools, etc.) on a master lock no. 150 (i found info on ML no. 140, 142 and 160 but no 150). anyone have any info that can help me? thanks.

5 pin, expect some spools, and maybe some of those weak master serrated pins.

christianwins wrote:
Alchemic_Revolt wrote:Masterlock No. 40 pins: 4 security: yes


Is there any information on what kind of security pins they are to research that further? (searching for specific numbers of locks doesn't work)

None of my Master 40's have security pins at all. I know abus discus have mushrooms, and brinks r70 have spools, but none of the dozens of 40's I've picked had any.
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby Locke Lamora » 30 Jan 2009 16:00

got it 8) thanks
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby justbegginin » 12 Feb 2009 19:36

master #5?
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby ridinplugspinnaz » 13 Feb 2009 3:28

justbegginin wrote:master #5?

There are no security pins in a Master #5.
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby l0ckp1cker » 1 Apr 2009 14:12

540D dimple lock with 5 pins. security pins = ?.
2250D 5 pins, security pins
607D 5 pins, security pins
680EURD 5 pins, security pins
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby newbie_lock » 13 Apr 2009 16:38

Does anyone know anything about the 647D?
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Re: Masterlock locks how many pins any security pins master lock

Postby sfi72 » 13 Apr 2009 16:43

l0ckp1cker wrote:540D dimple lock with 5 pins. security pins = ?.
2250D 5 pins, security pins
607D 5 pins, security pins
680EURD 5 pins, security pins

Master dimple locks usually have 2 security pins in them.
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