The rake key

[thelockopener]

Hi. Yesterday night I came up with an idea to help me open my Yale lock. I have yet to pick a lock, but did try with a pair of paper clips. Failed. I tried my dads Allen keys but the smallest was too thin and the next one up too fat! So here I propose the rake key!
Inspired by rakes and bump keys all you do iis pull it upand down INSIDE the lock so you have no need for another tensioner tool. When the pins are all raise, turn the key. Also this defeats the anti turn pin on some locks when the key is in it will be pushed and the lock can turn.

Sound good?

If any one wants to make any please post pics!

Thelockopener (suprised this name wasn't taken!)

[5thcorps]

I'll file that idea with my own great idea: The "Cordless Extension Cord" which probably has a better shot at working.

BTW if you haven't picked a lock yet than your user id should be theartistsoontobeknownasthelockopener

[weerwolf]

It will work on (some) wafer locks. But there is very little chance at picking pin tumbler locks with it. Maybe the very cheap/crap models.

[Solomon]

Yeah, this works if the lock is pinned very similarly to whatever lock the key you're using belongs to. And I mean VERY similarly. I know this because I accidentally used my own key to get into my girlfriend's (at the time) flat once... so I decided to investigate, as you do. Her key was cut almost identically to mine, however it didn't work in my door - so it's also a matter of lock quality. So yeah, on top of having an almost identical key, the lock would also need to be old and/or poor quality aswell.

You really do have a one in a million chance of this working. Learn how locks work, get practicing, and good luck!

[unjust]

the issue your'e going to hit is you can't move vertically in the keyway due to the side cuts of the key.

now, a keyway specific rake, with the rake as a spring wire over the bottom half of a key that fits the keyway might work, but it'll be fragile, and only work on that keyway, so you'll me more versatile with a regular rake.

[thelockopener]

Solomon.This is like a saw rake. Not a real key! Also you would need the tension tool. If you made this into a bogota rake (key) you could say that you needed to jiggle it 'cause the locks rather (cr*p). So you have an excuse!

[freakparade3]

So basically you want to make an auto jiggler for pin tumbler locks? They are called rakes, there are many profiles of them available already.......

[poor paperclip picker]

I think what the OP was trying to say is take a thicker piece of metal than a pick, (almost like a key) cut/grind a rake design of some sort. That way you can use it like a rake but also apply a small amount of tension on the piece of metal so there is no need for a tension wrench. Do not use a key blank, just something thicker than normal pick material so you can apply tension with out bending the pick.

Or I may be way off...

[mhole]

If you make it thicker, it won't fit. If you make it thinner, it's a rake.

Like other people said, understand what already works, get good at it, *then* start worrying about new approaches.

[thelockopener]

poor paperclip picker you are exactly right.
I guess this is like a failed idea. I dunno any way thanks for youre
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