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vending machinces

Tool recommendations, information on your favorite automatic and/or mechanical lockpicking devices for those with less skills, or looking to make their own.

Re: vending machinces

Postby jozq15 » 13 Dec 2008 21:43

That's exactly what I figured. I figured tubular locks would be out of date in no time.

I have a job that I like very much and have no need to steal money out of vending machines. I've been really interested in locks lately and want to learn more about all of them. I actually want to look into being a locksmith and do not know where to start. If you could throw any info my way it would be great. You'll notice that I'll be asking random questions all over this forum. I'm noticing locks on vending machines, gasoline pumps, atm machines, file cabinets and all types of doors and would like to know it all. I never realized the types of locks they have all had and how simple most of them are. The abloy locks are just pure genius btw. I guess the challenge intrigues me. I've been picking locks for a couple weeks now and have accumulated some interest in it.
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Re: vending machinces

Postby amdoubt » 13 Dec 2008 22:58

if you want to see a really cool lock ~ check out the "BiLock" - other then that check out some youtube videos

cheers
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Re: vending machinces

Postby Rytanfan93 » 16 Dec 2008 1:48

If you're interested in becoming a locksmith...where are you located?

jozq15 wrote:That's exactly what I figured. I figured tubular locks would be out of date in no time.

I have a job that I like very much and have no need to steal money out of vending machines. I've been really interested in locks lately and want to learn more about all of them. I actually want to look into being a locksmith and do not know where to start. If you could throw any info my way it would be great. You'll notice that I'll be asking random questions all over this forum. I'm noticing locks on vending machines, gasoline pumps, atm machines, file cabinets and all types of doors and would like to know it all. I never realized the types of locks they have all had and how simple most of them are. The abloy locks are just pure genius btw. I guess the challenge intrigues me. I've been picking locks for a couple weeks now and have accumulated some interest in it.
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Re: vending machinces

Postby Rytanfan93 » 16 Dec 2008 1:55

If in USA, go here http://www.foley-belsaw.com/ first, then go here http://www.aloa.org/.

Also, subscribe to these:
http://www.thenationallocksmith.com/index.asp
http://www.locksmithledger.com/

If you do get into it, let me know.
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Re: vending machinces

Postby jozq15 » 16 Dec 2008 12:16

I live in Flanders NJ. I'm seriously, seriously, absolutley serious about doing this. It's amazing how much lack of information there is in my area about locksmiths. There was 1 guy that had a shop that went out in my area and I have no clue where they all are. I went to the foley-belsaw website, is that legit?
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Re: vending machinces

Postby jozq15 » 16 Dec 2008 12:30

If I take the Foley and beLsaw course, am I licensed to be a locksmith if I pass it? What do I have to do to be a licensed locksmith. Do I have to be licensed to have my own business?
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Re: vending machinces

Postby mkultra23 » 16 Dec 2008 16:31

Licensing varies by location. Some require it and some, like here in Massachusetts do not. Usually you just have to submit to a criminal background check, though I'm sure the details are different in each municipality. I was asking the same questions two years ago. Are you in the US?
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Re: vending machinces

Postby jozq15 » 16 Dec 2008 16:53

Yea I live in New Jersey. How do I check with my state? I guess I could just visit the NJ website.
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Re: vending machinces

Postby Rytanfan93 » 16 Dec 2008 18:02

Upon completion of the Foley Belsaw course you will obtain a certificate of completion in basic locksmithing. This is a great course for several reasons. It gives you the basics in pretty much all areas of locksmithng and is very economical as well, considering it's a correspondance or through the mail course. You will see if this field is for you. Picking locks is only a small part of locksmith duties. Also keep in mind that in emergency situations, often times it's just not pratical or efficient. The major exception of course would be auto lockouts, when NDE or Non Destructive Entry is the preferred method above all else. In fact I did a great deal of these in the past and would hand out business cards to mall security and bank tellers. Strange, but these were the main places people got locked out of their vehicles.

As far as liscening, it varies from state to state, but generally, the Assosciated Locksmith's of Amercia provides states with the framework and guidlines for such liscening. I have noticed states often consult them and ALOA welcomes it with open arms. If you complete the Foley course then take an ALOA Proficiency Registration Program, or PRP, you should be able to pass the test and become a Certified Registered Locksmith or CRL. You can then progress to become a Certified Professional Locksmith and finally Certified Master Locksmith. Being a CRL means you are registered with ALOA (providing you pay your dues of course), as a reconized professional and have satisfied all the criteria as set forth by ALOA. ALOA is very well regarded and highly respected amoung the security industry.

Now finally, a really good reason to subscribe to National Locksmith and Locksmith Ledger is because they can bond you as well as provide excellent reference info and more networking. The bonding is great and they provide a nice certificate as well you can advertise this to potental customers. http://www.ampmlocksmith.com/content/view/28/50/

With all of the above completed you would definately qualify as an industry professional and it looks like your state, NJ, requires liscening. Again, with this link you can see ALOA is closely involved in NJ's standards.
http://www.aloa.org/legislation/Leg_Map/NJ.htm

State test should be cake if you completed the above.

Now at the very least, after comepleting the Foley course, you can seek apprentiship with a local shop. Hell, even if you go in there and simply ask if they need part time help help cutting keys or pinning locks for larger accounts, you should be able to see furhter if you like it and with the Foley course under your belt, you can demonstrate some working knowledge of the trade. When I got my first gig, I cut Medeco keys for larger accounts and pinned the locks for the locksmiths out in the field to install. The pay was slightly above minumum wage, but the experience was valuable. Part time work would be great on lets say weekends, or maybe after hours in the shop.

Let me know if you have any further questions.
I wish you all the best here and if you want this bad enough, you can definately get it.
jozq15 wrote:If I take the Foley and beLsaw course, am I licensed to be a locksmith if I pass it? What do I have to do to be a licensed locksmith. Do I have to be licensed to have my own business?
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Re: vending machinces

Postby unjust » 6 Feb 2009 18:28

so.... can't one just *count* them?

am i missing something here?
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Re: vending machinces

Postby jimb » 6 Feb 2009 18:54

jozq15 wrote:Yea I live in New Jersey. How do I check with my state? I guess I could just visit the NJ website.


Looks like NJ requires Licensing.
http://www.aloa.org/legislation/Leg_Map/NJ.htm
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Re: vending machinces

Postby mixmastermike255 » 18 Feb 2009 18:53

Does it take much training to become a professional locksmith? Because I've seen anywhere from 1 month to a year in courses.
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Re: vending machinces

Postby locfoc » 14 Mar 2009 21:47

amdoubt wrote:I was going to post an entire new thread on this subject - but this will do !

The Southord pick might be the most oversold- under utilize pick in the history of picks.

I would guess that most buyers believe that the purchase of this product will lead to the life of riches in the form coins .... the sad truth is the tool might be used once or twice and then gathers dust only to be broken and shown to friends as a novelty device.

Also most large vending machine CORPORATIONS are well aware that these picks are being sold over the internet and have now put in secondary measures to render the pick useless.

the simple fact is the tubular lock is becoming a thing of the past.


wow dude what city are you in? I still see tons of locks with tubular keys. bike locks, older vending machines - can be found in minors hockey arena's, harley davidson motorcycles. Can't agree with you in the least. Not in my area.
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Re: vending machinces

Postby mjw10210 » 24 May 2009 19:32

hillbilly21 wrote:hey this is a little bit off subject but i seen somewhere on the internet that there is a code for the soda machine that you can accsess the menu to get free pop, but its just hard for me to believe. Its just on the newer pop machines though the ones with the big ol' buttons on them. Macgyver is right up there with the A-team haha which are both pretty kick t.v series ha


yeah it's true the code is the top button is[*slap*]

[Let's leave this information to other websites. --Legion303]
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Re: vending machinces

Postby silent_snake » 25 May 2009 1:02

hillbilly21 wrote:hey this is a little bit off subject but i seen somewhere on the internet that there is a code for the soda machine that you can accsess the menu to get free pop, but its just hard for me to believe. Its just on the newer pop machines though the ones with the big ol' buttons on them. Macgyver is right up there with the A-team haha which are both pretty kick t.v series ha


This is a little off subject too, but a little while ago at work I noticed in the cash register was a quarter with a hole in the middle of it.
I'm just curious, does anyone know if that trick still works? :wink:
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