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Intro & question for Canadians

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Intro & question for Canadians

Postby Eigenfunction » 2 Aug 2004 17:50

Hello! New member here, thought I'd introduce myself!

I'm an undergrad physics student from Quebec, Canada, and have been interested in lockpicking as a hobby for quite some time. A few years back I read the MIT manual (I think that's what I read) and have been more or less looking for a way to get started ever since.

I don't have the proper tools to actually make functional lockpicks myself (this has been verified experimentally, as they would say) but I am considering purchasing some online. The FAQ and quite a few threads here recommend the MPSX-14 for newbs such as myself. I'm thinking of ordering that, but I suppose my question is this:

Has anyone from canada had trouble ordering picks from the US? I'm talking about confiscation, extra fees, etc etc. I've read through the legal threads here, and bits of the criminal code, and I don't see any trouble there. Anything I should know before ordering a set of picks (I'm probably going to go with lockpickshop.com)?
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Postby Chucklz » 2 Aug 2004 18:02

If you are going with lockpickshop, I assume you know you get a 10% discount on your order using the coupon code lp101. From what I remember seeing here, in Alberta you need a specific license to carry/own picks. Other than that I am afraid I will be of little help.

Nice handle by the way.
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Postby Eigenfunction » 2 Aug 2004 18:11

Thanks 8)

That's why I'm going with LPS, for the discount.
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Postby Sanjuurou » 6 Aug 2004 15:44

Hello,

I am from Quebec too and I'd like to know if everything was okay before I order too, let me know the shipping too please. I'd like to know what was the set you took.

Thanks,

Sanjuurou.
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Postby Eigenfunction » 6 Aug 2004 20:37

Ordered the MPSX 14 from lockpickshop.com (blue link to the left...) on monday. Hasn't arrived yet. I'll keep you posted about any duty fees (or mounties/SQ SWAT busting down my door) once I get the set. :D
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Postby hacktoad » 8 Aug 2004 14:33

Hi to all new lockpickers,

I'am from Quebec, Canada and I already ordered a pickset and few other tools from LockPickShop.com. All packages arrived in quite a resonnable time - however, I paid each time an extra duties cost and taxes, something like 15% of the order price... I think that if your order is less than 20$CDN they will let it pass, but if it is higher than that you'll need to pay an extra. Canadian duties are always a lot.... anyways...

*BUT* my last order haven't arrived yet, it makes more than 2 weeks, almost 3 weeks that I ordered it from a trustable site and still nothing. A friend of mine told me that his order from that site took him more than 3 weeks to arrive, so I think that there is no problem at all, if it takes time, just wait a little more and it'll arrive!
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Postby Eigenfunction » 8 Aug 2004 16:53

Yes, whatever happened to free trade?
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Postby logosys » 8 Aug 2004 17:04

Eigenfunction wrote:Yes, whatever happened to free trade?


All things Eigen are BAD!!!! (Sorry, just finished a Linear Algebra Exam)
-Logo

I am a great believer in luck, and I find the harder I work the more I have of it.
--Thomas Jefferson
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Postby Sanjuurou » 8 Aug 2004 20:03

Thanks for these informations, hacktoad. I'll probably order the MPSX 14 from L.P.S too, keep me informed please Eigen. Oh and, what's "reasonable time" and what's the other site you ordered from, hacktoad ?

Thanks,

Sanjuurou.
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Postby hacktoad » 8 Aug 2004 23:08

well, about a week and a half, but sometimes the Customs keeps it a little bit longer, so it might take 3 weeks to the max. Usually it takes around 2 weeks.
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Postby Eigenfunction » 11 Aug 2004 16:08

Well, got my MPXS-14 from LockPickShop in 6 days (that's 4 business days) without customs duty. Nifty!
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Postby Eigenfunction » 11 Aug 2004 16:15

Oh, and you don't get Eigenfunctions in linear algebra, I don't think. Just the vectors and the values. Eigenfunctions only come along in the wonderful solutions to such problems as the Bessel and Schroedinger equations. And there are often an infinite number of them, too, giving you solutions which much be expressed as infinite sums, or better yet, infinite sums of infinite sums.

Has everyone run away screaming yet, or must I keep talking? Don't make me start about tensor calculus now! :twisted:
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Postby Mad Mick » 11 Aug 2004 19:43

How can there be a solution derived from an infinite sum? Infinite implies something deemed immeasurable....

I'm nowhere near a maths Prof.......just stirring the brown smelly stuff... :lol:
Image If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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Postby Romstar » 12 Aug 2004 0:41

Generally speaking, and I am ONLY being general here (god was it that many years ago) eigenfunctions are most commonly found in measurements of continous waves, planes, quantum states, or energy states.

Because each measurement is taken not just at a specific place, but also at a specific time, the assumption that Schrodinger brings up is that you will only find a specific particle, wave or function at a specific place at a specific time. Until you sample the event, you don't know.

As the time durration increases, so do the samples and measurements in relation to the event and it's time/spatial co-ordinates.

Schrodinger equations are predictibility, or assumptive values based on the likelihood of a distribution.

After the sampling is made, you get a time independant schrodinger equation. This situation gives you a potential value or sum from an infinate sum. As the samples continue, the probabilities decrease, but the sumd reach into the infinate. Infinate sums of infinate sums.

This still doesn't address the eigenvalue, or eigenfunction.

Each eigenvalue has a given state. Once we know the value, we much again apply the function in order to find the associative state. Again we create a system whereby there can be infinate sums of infinate values or sums.

If you think any of this is bad, like the other guy said, try tensor calculus. Combine plane geometry and you have a recipe for a royal headache.

Here, try this.

Calulate the surface area of a mobius curve.

Have fun while I forget this little walk down amnesia lane.
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Postby mcm757207 » 12 Aug 2004 1:19

...am I the only one who didn't understand any of that?
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