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ABUS N-65/50

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Re: ABUS N-65/50

Postby raimundo » 22 Dec 2008 10:56

I use a biro to keep the picked lock from locking up when I remove the tensor, this allows me to reach in and feel the length of the pins pressed against the sidewall of the cylinder, thus getting a rough read on pin length that I refer to in impressioning the key, it really helps to know where the deep and shallow cuts are. I suppose its a cheat if you are an impressioning purist, but it works for me.

The abus lock makes this difficult without the pen pushed in the shackle hole, because then it only stays picked as long as you are manipulating the tensor. but with the pen inserted, you can just leave it and come back the next day and it remains picked.
Of course, you don't leave it there while impressioning, just for feeling the pin lengths. :)
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Re: ABUS N-65/50

Postby Varminter » 10 Apr 2009 4:15

I know this is an old thread but I recently took apart a 65/50 and I took a picture of the pins.
For those of you that thought it would be one or two spools I got a surprise for you...
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p136 ... llpins.jpg
and yes I know the picture is upside down :oops:
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Re: ABUS N-65/50

Postby raimundo » 10 Apr 2009 9:43

I dont know this but maybe, it could be possible to wrap a bunch of rubber bands around the top of the shackle to the bottom of the lock body while avoiding covering the plug,
this would/might cause the shackle to press down on the locking dogs cam surface and drive those dogs back or at least neutralize the counter tension springs.

If you do the experiment, let us know if its worth keeping around as an Idea.
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Re: ABUS N-65/50

Postby SnowyBoy » 29 Apr 2009 12:16

bugmenot101 wrote:Hello.

Im new to this lockpicking thing, and i started off with an ABUS N-65/50 lock, witch i havnt bin able to pick yet. Used apox. 50 mins in total on it, but i dont know what part im doing wrong. I havnt bin able to find anything about how much or little tension is needed on locks, and all that stuff.
It seems like i got some of the pins right, cause the lowest pin is loose and the lock turns abit more when i get that first one. The rest is random for now.

Anyone got a clue if this lock is too "hard" for a beginner? its a 6 pin lock, also got some pictures of it.

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Also triede on a ruko lock, witch i find harder. And some cheap china lock, but the keyhole is way to narrow.

I got the lockpicking set from, http://www.lockpickshop.com/PXS-14.html a 14 piece one. And im gonna make another pick my self today, cause theres "missing" on pin in the set imo.

Thanks if anyone can give me some guidance.


And im writing from this bugmenot account, cause i have waited 20 hours for the activation mail for my own account.


Well if it helps, this is what it looks like inside.

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8071/abus1.jpg
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Re: ABUS N-65/50

Postby sir lot is here » 30 Apr 2009 17:36

I had a job the other day which involved this lock, the owners tried smashing it with hammers ect
to get it off some gates, the person who phoned me know's im into my locks ! and most probs i'd do it 4 free !
anyway i could pick it at all ! i got know were ! no feed back from the plug at all ! so instead with it being brass
i drilled through it withing 20seconds.
it was a shame i didnt really want to do that to the lock,but i had no choice i thought maybe / hopefully they buggerd it up
smashing it with hammers, i really wanted to pick my way in !! but the guys want it open so needs must.

thats just my 2cent towards this German lock
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Re: ABUS N-65/50

Postby TheSkyer » 1 May 2009 5:18

ABUS is know for being hard. I mean the pro's get it open in no time but as a beginner this is really a tricky one. I myself own one of ""Snowboys" cutaways and even when you see what you are doing it will take you up to several minutes at first. Nowadays I open that lock in less than 30 seconds, but it took me a while to get there. And this doesn't mean I can now open all ABUS in no time, there are plenty f ABUS locks that still bust my b*lls.
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Re: ABUS N-65/50

Postby SnowyBoy » 1 May 2009 7:58

TheSkyer wrote:ABUS is know for being hard. I mean the pro's get it open in no time but as a beginner this is really a tricky one. I myself own one of ""Snowboys" cutaways and even when you see what you are doing it will take you up to several minutes at first. Nowadays I open that lock in less than 30 seconds, but it took me a while to get there. And this doesn't mean I can now open all ABUS in no time, there are plenty f ABUS locks that still bust my b*lls.


Glad you are using it :D

I bought a 55/50 when i started picking last year and it took me 6 hours to open it. I even noted down which pins had to be set first in the order (1,3,2,5,4) for that particular pad. I got it in the end, and now I can SPP it in about 10 seconds, and jiggle it in about 5.

:)
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