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Lever locks

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Lever locks

Postby sfi72 » 20 Feb 2009 16:23

I've been thinking about trying to pick some lever locks recently. I have been picking pin tumbler and other such locks for a couple years now, but I have never really thought much about lever locks. If anyone has any advice on what locks are best to start on, and where i can buy them, that would be great.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby tuscarora » 21 Feb 2009 9:21

I started on lever locks recently and eBay is a great place to get them. I bought my first one from B&Q, a 3-lever ERA for £15 and then on eBay I managed to get two 5-levers for £10 all-in. So if you want to buy them, go for eBay, a few quid will get you something to start with. I was impatient which is why I ended up spending so much getting one from B&Q!

That said, if you can find second hand locks that can be much cheaper - perhaps you should replace your back door lock with a new one, then your practice lock is sorta free?

The two 5-lever ones I have (a Chubb and a York) both have anti-pick notches and this makes them considerably more difficult so I'd say get yourself a cheapo 3-lever and a 5-lever and you'll have a couple of different levels of locks to work on.

It also turned out for me that both my 5-lever locks were curtained and the three lever one wasn't - again it's much easier to start out on locks without curtains. You also need different tools to deal with curtained and non-curtained locks, not so much of an issue if you make your own tools, but you'll have to drop some cash if you want to buy a curtain lock pick.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby sfi72 » 21 Feb 2009 15:12

Yeah, I've tried ebay, but its really hard to find lever locks on the US ebay, but on ebay.co.uk there are a ton, but alot of the sellers wont ship to US. The only ones on ebay are lever padlocks, and the occasional lever lock, that usually falls out of my price range or isn't a simple 3 or 5 lever lock.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby Engineer » 21 Feb 2009 19:15

I was really suprised when I found out out lever locks are so unusual in the US. They are on perhaps half the houses in the UK?

The real killer is the postage to the US even when someone will send them over there. Unfortunatly I cannot think of any easy way round the postage problem, other than asking friends or relatives who might be commng over here to pick you some up from a shop? They are so common, that most hardware shops would have them.

They are good fun to operate in your hand (carefully,with the side off). You can really appreciate how they work that way.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby sfi72 » 21 Feb 2009 19:30

Ok, so I found a couple sellers who will ship to the US, now I seem to have another problem. I believe I should start with a basic pin in cam lever pick, however after checking the sites I usually look at for picks, I can't seem to find it. I would rather not buy one from dealextreme, most of their stuff is crappy quality, and the shipping takes forever.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby ridderhenck » 12 Jun 2009 5:42

I make you a nice offer:I am willing to send a leverlock and my homemade tool :mrgreen:

Try that and you will be satisfied :mrgreen: :wink:

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Re: Lever locks

Postby exspook » 12 Jun 2009 15:49

what struck me when I was in America was that they called them LEVER locks (pronounced like leather) but with an american twang...rather endearing

said with the best hugh grant accent LOL
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Re: Lever locks

Postby TigerDragon » 12 Jun 2009 19:05

exspook wrote:what struck me when I was in America was that they called them LEVER locks (pronounced like leather) but with an american twang...rather endearing

said with the best hugh grant accent LOL


Where in America were you? I've never heard anyone pronounce it that way. I've always called them lever as rhymes with beaver or cleaver.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby sfi72 » 12 Jun 2009 20:05

TigerDragon wrote:
exspook wrote:what struck me when I was in America was that they called them LEVER locks (pronounced like leather) but with an american twang...rather endearing

said with the best hugh grant accent LOL


Where in America were you? I've never heard anyone pronounce it that way. I've always called them lever as rhymes with beaver or cleaver.

And I pronounce it lever as in clever or endeavor, with a 'short' e.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby raimundo » 13 Jun 2009 9:33

Forget the Hugh Grant accent, give me the Liz Hurley accent, and I want to see some heavy breathing, :lol:
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Re: Lever locks

Postby huxleypig » 14 Jun 2009 19:33

Ebay is good but what I do is look in skips of newly renovated buildings/offices. Or security/locksmith skips are good.

Might be a bit scummy and you won't have the key but this really doesn't matter if you're going to pick them anyway!
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Re: Lever locks

Postby exspook » 1 Jul 2009 14:58

lever as in clever, I was in Birmingham alabama at a SAVTA convention and there was a good mix of Americans

it was interesting to say the least!!!

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Re: Lever locks

Postby rrkss » 16 Jul 2009 23:40

Try home depot, I was able to buy a lever lock for cheap over there. Its called a Mortise lock if I remember.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby Rickthepick » 24 Sep 2009 6:16

picking lever mortice locks is far more rewarding than pinned cylinders.
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Re: Lever locks

Postby prag » 9 Nov 2009 11:23

Here is South Africa, mortice locks are commonly used. We commonly use 3,4,5 levers for outside doors and 2 levers for inside doors eg room or toilet doors.

For picks we use spring steel or I've heard of bicycle spokes.

Start off with all the levers removed and progress from 1 lever upward. Picking skills will improve with practice.

These are locks I really enjoy working on. :lol: :lol:
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