Saw Rake

[dktf]

hey guys,

i was wondering what you all thought of the saw rake (the one that has depths supposedly cut like a house key)

i've had one in my basic set and one on my southord jack-knife. Both of which have snapped off inside locks when i was attempting to rake them. Has this type of problem happened with anyone else using this pick? or is it just myself?

[l0ckp1cker]

Oh yes, it's one of the 2 picks that I've ever broken.
The other one is another similar rake.
I only find this rake useful for jiggling and for opening small locks with only the rake (no tension wrench).
For the rest I prefer the short hook and snake rake

[Solomon]

Heh, mine snapped not too long ago. Here's a pic I took the day it happened.

[MacGnG1]

yea i snapped one of those too just got a new one in the mail.

[apb]

Heh, mine snapped not too long ago. Here's a pic I took the day it happened.

I 've found some use for this rake as a jiggler/rake and the first time I used it on an American 5200 is worked great. Since then it's been a mediocre tool when compared to the bogota. I do like to practice with this rake from time to time however. I just am wondering, since there are a few people who have had the same problem, were you mildly raking with it when that happened or was there some considerable force applied to the rake to bend it like that. It seems pretty extreme for the average raking technique. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm interested to know if there is a defect with this rake.

[l0ckp1cker]

Heh, mine snapped not too long ago. Here's a pic I took the day it happened.

I 've found some use for this rake as a jiggler/rake and the first time I used it on an American 5200 is worked great. Since then it's been a mediocre tool when compared to the bogota. I do like to practice with this rake from time to time however. I just am wondering, since there are a few people who have had the same problem, were you mildly raking with it when that happened or was there some considerable force applied to the rake to bend it like that. It seems pretty extreme for the average raking technique. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm interested to know if there is a defect with this rake.

I have put more pressure on the short hooks (even the slimline) and they don't even bend. It's a weak point there and the other rake that I've broken has a similar weak point (third pick from the left.

[raimundo]

Youve seen chocalate bars? they have grooves in them, supposed to concentrate stress and make it break on the line, well it dosent work well with chocalate, but with steel, if you have a narrow thin part and adjacent you have thicker/wider metal, all stress will concentrate on the part that has some give. These saw rakes are not undercut and they have a small area where the pickshaft and picktip meet that is thinner than all the rest.
Because this thin part is the only area that is forced to flex by the inflexible thicker parts, all stress is concentrated there.
if the rake were undercut and the shaft tapered much more subtly, it would not break there, and it would have the possiblility of flexing along a length when under stress rather than concentrateing it all in a narrow point that cannot easily flex and spring back undamaged.

[pjzstones]

the only pick i've broke was a saw or jig rake or what ever you wanna call it.

[WolfSpring]

I broke my saw rake 2nd week i had it(I think south ord calls it L rake). It's what I learned first on and was pissed till I watched a video with the diamond, much better for me. I've broken my Saw, two Hooks and an S rake. I am very hard at times on them and working with some jammed up locks that I find in the sand.

[pjzstones]

found in sand . yeah that would seem to put a lot of stress on a pick.

[WolfSpring]

Yeah i'm in Kuwait, and I"m cheap, I find some decent locks, American 5200/SL-40/SL-10/20 and others cut and left in the sand here.