Identify and Repin Zeiss Ikon Lock

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Hey everybody, first off: This forum is awesome! I'm just starting out to pick locks and so far I've found loads of interesting and helpful stuff here! Keep it up!

About my lockpicking-history (a whole 2 weeks ):
After I had successfully picked several locks I had lying around the house, I got a lock from eBay that sounded cool (you see I'm a total beginner, buying locks that sound cool ). Anyway it just said that it was a Zeiss Ikon...so I got it for a few Euro. It arrived today and of course I immediately tried to pick it...with miserable results. I couldn't get more than 2 or 3 pins to set (I don't even know whether they were false sets or not).
So I just had to take it apart and see what's inside. Of course I became a bit overambitious and more or less ripped the thing carefully apart without taking a good look at it. I mean I had taken apart 2 whole locks before...what should be different now well, unfortunately... a lot!

Here's a picture of all the parts:


Now, for my questions:
1. Does anybody know the exact "name" of this lock? It says Zeis Ikon, JUNIOR and BZA 61 (though I think this is a mark from the previous owner). The eBay-Auction also said "TK5", but that can be nonsense, too. There are some locks on the IKON Homepage, but none resemble this lock...it's probably quite old...

2. What purpose do these little discs (in the top right corner) serve? I noticed that you need one per plug, to fill it up to the shear line. But that leaves me with 2 discs. Where do they go?

3. What are the little balls in the springs good for?

Looking forward to your answers!
Thanks in advance!

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First of all, use a different image host preferably one that doesnt force you to watch an add for "adultfriendfinder" before going to the image.

Secondly, I believe the ball bearings are a way to prevent "comb" attacks, and that is all that we can say about them out here.

How do you not know where those disks go, since you took the locks apart?

Chances are they are a master pin and would go in between the driver and key pin, so if you repin the lock, you need to put them in one of the other chambers while the key isn't in the plug, else they won't fit.

[mh]

How do you not know where those disks go, since you took the locks apart?

Wild guess: because they were all flying around when the plug was removed?

They enable other keys to open the lock as well, so they go between the upper and lower pins, to create more options for a shear line.
With only one key, you will probably not be able to find out where some of the disks belong, just leave them out. But the other keys (master key, grand master key, etc) that opened the lock before won't work anymore.

Cheers
mh

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Thanks for your answers!

First of all, use a different image host preferably one that doesnt force you to watch an add for "adultfriendfinder" before going to the image.

Sorry if the imagehost was offensive to anyone. But how can you surf the net without stumbling over porn ads...I don't even notice them anymore...
But that doesn't help anyone...which image host would you recommend?

But the other keys (master key, grand master key, etc) that opened the lock before won't work anymore.

Since I don't have any more keys, I'll probably follow your advice and leave them out! Danke auf jeden Fall!

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Zeiss Ikon is the manufacturer, BZA61 is just an internal mark from the user of the lock, and TK5 is the type of profile system and says that is has 5 pin stacks. The balls in the springs should make a drill break when someone wants to drill the lock. They do not prevent one from drilling it, but they increase the time the lock can resist a drill attack.

These older Zeiss Ikon locks are usually not so difficult to pick, even as a beginner I was able to open one of these and another one with 7 pins after a short time.

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