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what picks/books/locks to get

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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what picks/books/locks to get

Postby Teus » 19 Aug 2004 14:24

it's not so long I'm into lockpicking, and I'm already able to open padlocks, a cheap euro cylinder lock (5 normal pins) and my Abus C98 lock filled with 4 spool pins. I want to go a step further and buy some books and picks.

I'll order on amazon.com steel bolt hacking because it's being promoted here. Together with that, I'll buy "Opening Combination Padlocks" . Will these books suffice, or should I buy the lock picking CD rom and/or a book about high security locks

on locktools.nl I can buy the PXP 10 beginners pick set with 13 parts. http://www.locktools-gereedschap.nl/images/pxp10.jpg
will this set work on those really tiny padlocks?
I can buy books over there too, btw

and for last: what lock should I get to train with, perhaps someone from Europe can point me out what I should get?
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Postby Eagerpicker » 19 Aug 2004 14:32

Hello Teus,

Welcome to lockpicking101. Please use the Frequently Asked Questions section to find answers to most of your questions. Personally, I do not know if 'Steel bolt hacking' is the best book to purchase. Read through the threads on books first, then see what posters recommend. For your basic introduction to lockpicking, there is no need to spend money on reading material. Pretty much all there is to tell you will find here and through links provided by this site.

Good luck and when you have searched and read the FAQs and still have questions, please do not hesitate to ask them. :)

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Postby snowcat » 19 Aug 2004 17:00

hi Teus

you are not limited to ordering from europe see below. But if you do please give a review of the store.
I have a southord slim line Euro - japanese lock pick set and i've opend very small padlocks w them.


As you know i'm from belgium too so these should be the same for you (If customs dousn't have a bad day)

i've had very good experiance w
http://www.lockpickshop.com/
Very fast (7 days to europe) friendly people

www.lockpicks.com
Fast (10 days to europe) Good communication, well packed items
nice selection of clear practice locks, keypins ...

Hope i've been of some help.
Hobby they say, try addiction ;)
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Postby Teus » 20 Aug 2004 18:41

thx for the info eagerpicker, but I'm not completely new into lockpicking. I've got a summer job so I can afford some toys right now :)

I've read some threads on the picks, I'll buy the 5pick euro/japan set. too bad individual euro/japan picks can't be bought individually. I'd love to buy a pocket knife too, but those won't work on european locks :/

only the books and the locks now. I don't find any big book threads, or did I look wrong?

snowcat, what locks did you buy to practice picking ?
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Postby xorox » 20 Aug 2004 19:07

Word on the street is "Steel Bolt Hacking" is poorly written. As for recommendations on books, how much are you willing to spend?
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Postby Teus » 21 Aug 2004 6:33

let's say $50

I know how a normal cheap lock works and how it can be picked, but I want to go a step further: the book should go in-depth. I'd like to open combination locks as well, but the book (or books) doesn't need to about really expensive high-tech locks
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Postby WhiteHat » 21 Aug 2004 8:18

Teus wrote:I've read some threads on the picks, I'll buy the 5pick euro/japan set. too bad individual euro/japan picks can't be bought individually.?


southord.com sells the slimline picks individually and apparently lockpickshop.com and lockpicks.com are going to be selling them individually very soon (so they keep telling me) lockpicks.com say that they sell them individually but they just havn't put them on their site yet.....
Oh look! it's 2016!
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Postby Murph » 21 Aug 2004 21:40

Teus,
Have you checked out the MIT Lockpicking guide? It's really good. Best of all it's FREE! Do a search on this site and you'll get URLs to access it , plus you can download it for free. It has been recommended by a lot of people in this forum.
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Postby Teus » 26 Aug 2004 0:12

Murph wrote:Teus,
Have you checked out the MIT Lockpicking guide? It's really good. Best of all it's FREE! Do a search on this site and you'll get URLs to access it , plus you can download it for free. It has been recommended by a lot of people in this forum.

yes I've already read it.

fortunately, I found a good shop in the EU: http://www.locksmith-tools.co.uk

I'll get the 9piece euro set and some books. this pen pick looks awesome, but it's expensive and I don't know if it's any good. it's nice and discrete, but I haven't heard a lot of good thing about jackknifes
http://www.locksmith-tools.co.uk/html/pen_style_pocket_lock_pick_set.html[/url]
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Postby Eagerpicker » 26 Aug 2004 9:08

Hi Teus,

I think such pen sets etc. are more of a gadget than a functional, handy picking tool. I do own the SouthOrd jackknife myself and have used it with much success in spur-of-the-moment kind of situations, but only on simple (pad)locks. For proper picking I would always use proper tools, without elaborate handles, nothing fancy. Nevertheless -- it is a matter of taste and comfort, of course.
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Postby Teus » 26 Aug 2004 13:51

picks & books orderd. I'll only need to find a good practice lock now, perhaps some Dutch member can give me some advise

thanks a lot for the help! :)
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