What type of lock is it?

[dobermann]

Hi,

First i want to apologize if this post isn't at the right place. So i have a problem. I want to pick this lock, but it seems a little bit different from others, so i have some difficulties to find out what exactly this lock is and how does it work. I hope you guys will help me:)

[thelockpickkid]

wow! have fun with that one! This is a high security lock and although you did yourself good by showing that it is your lock and not in use by the pictures, we can't discuss these on the forum last time I checked.

[dobermann]

Shure it's mine:) what do you mean, that it isn't allowed to discuss it here? Type of lock or what?

[LocksmithArmy]

We have an advanced section here for high security locks and stuff we dont want the general public and google to be able to find... there are certian requirments you must meet before you can apply to see the stuff inside.

here is a link so you can read about it:

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewforum.php?f=15

enjoy:)

[dobermann]

We have an advanced section here for high security locks and stuff we dont want the general public and google to be able to find... there are certian requirments you must meet before you can apply to see the stuff inside.

here is a link so you can read about it:

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewforum.php?f=15

enjoy:)

Now i got the point:) Too bad for me, because i thought that this lock is basic stuff:) And thanks for your answears.

[LocksmithArmy]

To me, that lock looks like a warded lock. which, as far as I know, is not hight security. but I do not know the company or anything so look into that at your own will.

warded locks are easy to pick, you reach in the back with a strong hook like device(made of whatever wont bend) and search for a little lever. thay make warded picks that make this job easier.

but agin I have not seen this perticular lock before so if Im wrong dont eat my soul.

[dobermann]

To me, that lock looks like a warded lock. which, as far as I know, is not hight security. but I do not know the company or anything so look into that at your own will.

warded locks are easy to pick, you reach in the back with a strong hook like device(made of whatever wont bend) and search for a little lever. thay make warded picks that make this job easier.

but agin I have not seen this perticular lock before so if Im wrong dont eat my soul.

So that is the problem, there is no visible sign of manufacturer neither on the lock nor on the key. Inside the upper part around keyhole turns independantly 360 degrees to any side, the inner part turns only with a key.

[sfi72]

Its a disk detainer, like Abloy but nowhere near as high quality. Basic ones like this can be picked quite easily, with the proper tools.

[raimundo]

appears to have the same keyway that kriptonite locks use now, the bicycle U locks like the ON GUard.

Go to a bike store or a bike rack and look in the keyways, you will see the same discs and the same type of key

[rrkss]

Looks like a disc detainer lock to me. Since you asked how the lock works, I will explain that since that is not restricted material. Can't tell you how to pick it though.

Basicly, it is a series of circular discs stacked on top of each other with a little notch cut into each disc. What the key does is rotates all the discs so that the notches are all next to each other so that a bar can drop in and the lock opens.

Here is a simple text drawing of 5 discs stacked without the key. As you can see the notches are randomly scattered and a straight bar can not fit in them. In both images, the notches have been colored red.

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After the correctkey has been rotated, the notches are now lined up and a bar can fit in them freeing the cylinder and allowing the lock to open.

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Its a very simple and elegant design but very difficult to pick without the right information and tools.

[Jaakko]

rrkss, nice drawings although I must point out one flaw: The discs won't turn both directions in the opening process, but all in the same direction (very obvious, as the key turns only one direction at a time)

And yeah, opening instructions are advanced information as the lock is a rotating disc detainer lock (similar to ABUS based on the key). They can be picked, but that is all there is to say on this public forum.