Schlages recode-able lock?

[mcm757207]

I heard Kwikset is coming out with a remote operable lock as well, I think the idea is to tie it into those home automation systems and/or security systems.

[Tyler J. Thomas]

I saw a tv commercial yesterday that was for a lock called the schlage LINK, apparently a lock that you can open by telephone from remote locations, such as when a family member is locked out or a scheduled service man needs to enter.

I hadn't seen it mentioned here, though it may have been.
would you trust a lock that can be opened by a telephone call? shoulder surfers, bored NSA homeland evesdroppers, and others can easily crack this, and what if you misplace or have your phone stolen with that in the numbers list.

It's sort of regulated like a typical alarm company. You pay a monthly fee to Schlage. They supply you with a router that interfaces with the lock. I've read debate that it will/won't allow integration with current and future Schlage platforms, but I don't care enough about Schlage to follow it closely.

Your hypothetical scenarios I can't really answer but the latter part seems to be valid concerns. Again, I'm not following the situation closely enough and I probably won't be until there's a demand for it. As of today, I've only installed one and frankly, I wasn't very impressed.

It looks like an act of desperation to me. Guess Schlage is hurting too economically.

I wouldn't say that. They're branching out from their bread and butter and it has a good chance of revolutionizing residential locks IF consumers buy it. That's a big IF, however.

[Tyler J. Thomas]

I heard Kwikset is coming out with a remote operable lock as well, I think the idea is to tie it into those home automation systems and/or security systems.

They better not cash in on my idea to integrate automotive keys into household locks, transponders and all!

[unlisted]

They better not cash in on my idea to integrate automotive keys into household locks, transponders and all!

Your joking right?

[Tyler J. Thomas]

They better not cash in on my idea to integrate automotive keys into household locks, transponders and all!

Your joking right?

Not at all, I hope someone develops it one day. I'd like to be able to lock and unlock everything with one key. Add redundant security in the form of transponders? Sign me up. Unlock my front door with my car remote? Even better.

Strattec might just be heading down that path.

[unlisted]

Not at all, I hope someone develops it one day. I'd like to be able to lock and unlock everything with one key. Add redundant security in the form of transponders? Sign me up. Unlock my front door with my car remote? Even better.

Strattec might just be heading down that path.

Uh, there is already companies which have went down this road.

[Tyler J. Thomas]

Not at all, I hope someone develops it one day. I'd like to be able to lock and unlock everything with one key. Add redundant security in the form of transponders? Sign me up. Unlock my front door with my car remote? Even better.

Strattec might just be heading down that path.

Uh, there is already companies which have went down this road.

Utilizing transponders and remotes?

[unlisted]

.... No- thats why I said it has been done before.

Yes, it has been done, with little success.

[Tyler J. Thomas]

.... No- thats why I said it has been done before.

Yes, it has been done, with little success.

Well let's hope someone like Strattec develops it correct next time around.

I fit a modified ignition cylinder into an Arrow cylindrical lock and put it on my back door (mechanical portion only). Still perplexed on how I'm going to get my deadbolt to work without changing the 160 prep.

[FarmerFreak]

Confederate I think you are looking at your idea the difficult way. To get home locks on your vehicle key (with transponder). Would be an expensive lock to make. And you would need to have several model/versions of each lock to cover the many different kinds of auto locks/transponder technologies.

I like the creative thinking, but most (seriously just about all) vehicle locks aren't what I would consider secure. And even Assa Cliq is having a hard time coming up with an electromechanical lock cylinder that is secure.(or maybe they fixed the problem already)

But there is an answer to the problem....Tape...Yes tape. You can tape your auto key to your house key and they will become one.

Seriously though, if you really do make this lock. I would love to see it. Please post it.


Ok, back on topic. Has anybody seen anything in the Schlage Recode-able lock that would make it difficult to pick. I understand that it can't be bumped,...but woohoo. At first I was thinking from the last pictures that maybe it would have some kind of false gate. I'm not so sure anymore, it looks like it'll be easy.

I guess we won't really know how easy/difficult these locks will be to pick until we have one in our hands. I can't wait, I like new things.

[unlisted]

But there is an answer to the problem....Tape...Yes tape. You can tape your auto key to your house key and they will become one.

Or this..

[Tyler J. Thomas]

I like the creative thinking, but most (seriously just about all) vehicle locks aren't what I would consider secure. And even Assa Cliq is having a hard time coming up with an electromechanical lock cylinder that is secure.(or maybe they fixed the problem already)

Added security is a plus but wouldn't be the key factor in my decision. What lock isn't able to be bypassed these days? A drill can solve a lot of problems, doesn't mean I'm going to go out of my way to protect against it. If someone wants to get in, they will. They'll probably just bust through one of my windows.

I'd be doing it for a convenience factor mainly, but an additional layer of security isn't something I'm going to complain about, vulnerable or not.

Seriously though, if you really do make this lock. I would love to see it. Please post it.

I'll have to pull apart my knob set one day. It's ugly from the inside because of all the modding but on the outside, it's flawless.

Thanks for the suggestion unlisted. I've been locksmithing for several years and I've never heard of these 'key rings'. Seriously, I've got dozens of keys that I have to keep. My key ring is like a hall of fame of high security - Kaba, Mul-T-Lock, MIWA, Medeco, etc. and I'm sure you know their heft and size - I'm struggling for space. I'd like to reduce it by a few for my sanity. Plus, it'd also be nice to unlock the door via a remote instead of fumbling through keys at night. Oh, and it'd be neat to open everything with one key too. I think they call that 'keyed alike' in the industry - people seem to like that.

[unlisted]

well like some others have said, it would be very hard for a "fully interchangable" keyed system.

May be easier to go the route of some type of SFIC format/idea- (have a universal adaptor) and than just put your own core into it... also for your transponder/remote entry idea- 3 things:

1. having a universal remote would kill the "interchangeable key" idea- making it moot

2. easy to hack remote entry.

3. if its a universal format, what would stop someone from "pulling" the lock, and manually operating the catch? (I assume this is where the transponder would come into play...)

If you were just using a transponder with a key could work better- just make the electronic "guts" built into the actual lock housing, and not the SFIC core-like drop in. (than just have a standard for programming it up... )

If you build it, I will buy it. I just don't see many automakers selling their vehicles with a sfic type format..

For your keyring, I know how you feel- thats why I installed a masterkeyed system @ my residence and other places I frequent- so all I need is one key. (and everyone else gets sub masters)