Yale high security door lock

[celery]

Hi. I am a novice at lock picking, but am trying to pick my Yale (on campus) door lock anyway. I think it is a YH module, although it doesn't say so on the lock plug itself. I know that it is a high security, restricted key blank lock. A local locksmith told me that the lock also has some sort of a side bump/pick countermeasure like a pin or a slider. Does anybody know what I'm up against, or how I can pick it?

I can send pictures of the lock or key if that's helpful,

Thanks

[FarmerFreak]

First off. If you don't own the lock and you don't have permission to pick it, then don't pick it. Also you shouldn't pick a lock if it is in use, even if you own it.

Secondly the Yale lock you are referring to is high security, you said so yourself, and as such these locks are not discussed in the open forum. Sorry.

[celery]

Thanks for the response. I keep locking myself out, so I would like to be able to pick it to get myself in. I do not have access to the advanced lock section, so I was hoping to get answers here.

[Squelchtone]

Thanks for the response. I keep locking myself out, so I would like to be able to pick it to get myself in. I do not have access to the advanced lock section, so I was hoping to get answers here.

We have a post like this about once a month. My canned response is "if you forget your key, how will you remember to always keep a pick set on you?"

Go to the school store and get a nice bright lanyard and wear that thing around your neck, that's what we did around campus. Worked great.

Squelchtone

[celery]

It's not the same, because I would keep my lock pick set in another room on my floor. What I really want is a spare key, but unfortunately they use restricted key blanks here and don't allow spares. Will anyone help me?

[Raymond]

No. You are beyond help. We have already explained the policy of not picking locks that do not belong to you and especially not locks in use.

The locksmith already explained that the lock is a high security lock in addition to restricted key blanks. You wont be able to pick it as it has a sidebar and is similar to Schlage Primus!

So, do yourself a favor and leave it alone.

[celery]

Raymond: thank you for letting me know about the side bar and the Primus, it was very helpful. I did pick my friends door, because his key configuration looked easier than my own. I can't open mine just yet, but I think I will in fact be able to do it.

I apologies that I have infringed upon your ethics, obviously I do not meet this forums standards. And although I had hoped this site would benefit my desire to succeed at this fascinating hobby, I concede that it has no reciprocating desire to teach me.

Celery

[Solomon]

Raymond: thank you for letting me know about the side bar and the Primus, it was very helpful. I did pick my friends door, because his key configuration looked easier than my own. I can't open mine just yet, but I think I will in fact be able to do it.

I apologies that I have infringed upon your ethics, obviously I do not meet this forums standards. And although I had hoped this site would benefit my desire to succeed at this fascinating hobby, I concede that it has no reciprocating desire to teach me.

Celery

Sounds like the Yale "pro-key" mastering system. These are 6 pin locks with an additional interactive pin. There is no sidebar, but it's still advanced material. I doubt very much that you picked your friends lock, because if you did, you wouldn't be here asking us how to pick yours when it is essentially the exact same thing.

Here's the deal, we're not lockout support... even if you were genuinely interested in this as a hobby (which I doubt), we still couldn't give you any information on picking this mechanism outside of the advanced forum. There are very good reasons why this information is off-limits, hopefully you can respect that. Take these guys advice and just look after your key. It's not hard to do, and even if you do lose it you're in a university building where there is always someone with a master key who can let you into your room. Reception will get a new key made for you the following day, so you have no reason whatsoever to be toying with those locks... and don't try anything funny like pretending to lose your key so you can get a spare, people try it all the time. They'll rekey the lock aswell, thus the old key will be useless to you, so don't waste your time.

That lock is there for your own personal privacy and safety, it doesn't belong to you, and you don't have permission to pick it. If you can't understand why messing with it is a bad idea, then this really isn't the place for you. It's part of a master system so there's no such thing as getting locked out; there is zero need whatsoever for you to even contemplate picking it open - other than to show off, that is. And we don't tell people how to pick the locks on their dorm rooms so they can pretend to be james bond in front of their friends.

[FarmerFreak]

Sounds like the Yale "pro-key" mastering system. These are 6 pin locks with an additional interactive pin. There is no sidebar, but it's still advanced material.

Just FYI, Yale does have a sidebar lock. I personally don't think highly of the design. But that is a separate issue.

[lockinabox]

Sounds like the Yale "pro-key" mastering system. These are 6 pin locks with an additional interactive pin. There is no sidebar, but it's still advanced material.

Just FYI, Yale does have a sidebar lock. I personally don't think highly of the design. But that is a separate issue.

Did they license it from another Ass$%#e Abloy company?

[celery]

Solomon: They charge $25 for lockouts after your first 3, which I have already exhausted, and it's a serious nuisance because the housing department is not prompt. Also, I definitely did open my neighbors door, but perhaps it is just dumb luck. But thank you for your help, I know now see that this is not an ideal forum for this situation.

Lockinabox: I think they said that all of their locks are handled by physical plant, although I do not know what that, or an alboy is. Does it in fact have a sidebar? Is there anyway that I could feel around and find out? There seams to be very little online about how to compromise a sidebar, other than for Medeco's.

Thanks

Celery.

[Solomon]

Abloy is a lock manufacturer. The ASSA Abloy group now owns Yale. We aren't going to help you pick that lock, or any lock which has a sidebar. Sorry, you're just gonna have to be more careful and look after your key.

[celery]

Ok. But how does a person get given access to the advanced lock section?

[celery]

nvm. I found the section that answers my question

[Solomon]

Ok. But how does a person get given access to the advanced lock section?

It tells you all that stuff at the top of the advanced section. I'm guessing you found it, but here is a link just in case. I don't think you're off to a good start though, disregarding the rules of locksport and whatnot.

Look at this from a different perspective... the thing is, let's just say a member of university staff catches you picking the lock on your dorm room - which they will if you're doing it every day - or someone sees you doing it and gets nervous so they go tell somebody. You could get thrown out and maybe even charged aswell. Even if you don't get thrown out for it, any time something goes missing you're the first person they're going to look at. And since individuals are never to blame for their actions, of course it's going to be our fault if you end up in trouble. The solution to your problem is to get a carabiner in the colour of your choice and a cool keyring, and keep it on a belt loop.

Sure, if there's a lockout and there's no other way in, by all means pick the lock. Your situation doesn't count because the lock isn't your property and you don't have any kind of permission to touch it. I know it's your dorm but you're still breaking the law. It'd be pretty silly to be charged for trying to get into your own room. Seriously man, get a new key and invest in a carabiner. Since you have to pay $25 this time, it should register properly and you'll be more careful in future... how did you even manage to lose your key 3 times anyway?