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Help my identify this lock!

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Help my identify this lock!

Postby n2oah » 5 Nov 2009 17:33

Hey,
Sorry I've been scarce around here lately. :oops:
But I'm looking for your help. I received an e-mail from a man seeking help in identifying a lock. We don't have a whole lot of info on it, but he did send me a few nice pictures, which is always a start. He says it has three wheels, and that it fits into some sort of key safe. I'm pretty confused by the multiple indexes (A,B,C and D) as well as the discontinuity between 0 and 100.
Thanks for your help,
Noah
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Re: Help my identify this lock!

Postby n2oah » 5 Nov 2009 17:37

Oh, here's the picture he sent me.
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Re: Help my identify this lock!

Postby raimundo » 7 Nov 2009 9:19

Never saw that one before, but looking at it, it appears to have some bolts coming out of the lockcase.
As if the lock itself was the cover or door that is being locked, there are no holes for this lock to be screwed onto the back of a door.

This makes me think its like the russian lock that fits over another lock. you open this thing and remove it when those bolts on the sides are drawn in, an it gives access to a keyhole or something.

I would be very interested to learn about this lock if anyone knows something about it.
Greyman should be asked about it.
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Re: Help my identify this lock!

Postby Rickthepick » 7 Nov 2009 9:43

thats a nice lock wouldnt mind dismantling that 8)
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Re: Help my identify this lock!

Postby svc » 7 Nov 2009 13:15

raimundo wrote:This makes me think its like the russian lock that fits over another lock. you open this thing and remove it when those bolts on the sides are drawn in, an it gives access to a keyhole or something.
I doubt it's russian as the markings are latin alphabets. Russians would definitely use cyrillic alphabets.
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Re: Help my identify this lock!

Postby mh » 8 Nov 2009 4:43

You might want to ask Oli D., he knows many combination locks...,
see http://blog.tresoroeffnung.de/

The discontinuity in the forbidden zone is not uncommon with some German locks, cf. the Bode Panzer lock pictures on his blog.

Also, "Nr." is a typical German abbreviation for "Number", I understand the English version would be "No."

Cheers,
mh
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Re: Help my identify this lock!

Postby straightpick » 10 Nov 2009 22:11

Asked a friend who has traveled the world working on safe locks. Said he recalled working on a very similar lock in a South American embassy. The brand name, as far as he can remember, was Soler. The full name was "Arcas Y Basculas Soler", made in Spain. Hope this helps.
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Re: Help my identify this lock!

Postby n2oah » 14 Nov 2009 18:55

Thanks for all the help, guys. I'll definitely shoot Oli an e-mail and look into the Soler brand.
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