plug spinner trick

[freakparade3]

Does that actually work? What if you stuffed it with time-hardening string?

It works well with wafer locks that relock every turn.

[tazman]

well not bad ...

[Johnny P]

It's been a long time since the 2nd page, and while I have disagreed with shrub at times, I have to say that after looking at this guy's broken picks and tension wrenches over just a couple of months, there just is NOT any reason, good or bad, for breaking those many picks.

I guess there's a reason he calls his videos "Locksayer Productions."

[ionizer12]

Ok since its been done throughout this entire thread, i wont rip on his skills or flame him. Be a little more gentle and easier with it and you'll have more success. The spinner trick is interesting. I may try this with one of my homemade tension wrenches because i wont care if i mess them up. I was just wondering if there were any other ways you can do it manually?

[Solomon]

I watched the video then I looked at some of his other videos and I ran across this one called "R.I.P pick graveyard". I counted 14 bent and broken picks in that video, I have broken or bent a total of 4-5 picks since I started picking years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-X5mZ5yYYw

Woah. And that was just in a period of a couple of months! I've broken one pick so far and bent a couple of others slightly, but they still have many years left in them.

As for the trick in the video, I'm not fond of bending stuff so I prefer to use a rubber band. I don't use a plug spinner much, but when I need one, I have some of those and a shortened down tension wrench in the box. Works like a charm... just position everything the way I show it here, let go with the right fingers and it flies around. I made a short vid but it wasn't the best demo since it spun right the way around and the pins reset, way too fast to see properly. I could do one with an older cylinder which doesn't rotate quite as smoothly, but I'm sure you get the idea.



High tech, right?

[thecrazy]

I used the same technology

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr_3L56VKjk

[Solomon]

Nice! It's a good little trick, isn't it?

[thecrazy]

Nice! It's a good little trick, isn't it?

Yes man and cheap

[Shackle Jackal]

Glad I am not the only one who cringed at that video. I personally like the rubber band trick better.

[C locked]

Where did that lock say anything about primus? Primus is much more secure than some amature raking them.

The knob showed in that video appeared to be a schlage F series knob. A primus cylinder will not even retrofit into that....

If i recall correctly
That knob series has a bypass tool
It would appear that using the tension tool applying gratuitous tension lockslayer
has caused the bypass to occur

[Shackle Jackal]

Have a question about the use of plug spinners, both the commercially made ones and DIY'ers. When I am using a spinner, would I place the tool inside the lock with the lock rotated til it stops, or should I turn the plug as close to pins as I can without re-setting them before using the plug spinner ?

I am using the rubber band method if that makes a difference... I searched and search, many threads about plug spinners, so I am sure this has been covered at some point (seems like everything has), but could not find the info I need. Any help would be greatly appreciated !

[GWiens2001]

Sort of in between the two. You want the spinner to have enough time to get the plug turning fast enough that it passes the driver pins before the springs can push the driver pins down. But if you have the plug turned too far, the spinner loses the velocity.

Gordon

[Shackle Jackal]

I was making both of those mistakes, without trying it in-between the two. It makes sense now, at first I had it too far away, then too close. 1st success with a plug spinner ! (aka a thick rubber band )

[GWiens2001]

Congrats on the success, shackle jackal.

Gordon

[ltdbjd]

I say naughty words when I use a plug spinner and the plug comes to a sudden stop as it locks back up. I've found Murphy's Law works in this situation too. The chance of the lock relocking is directly proportionate to the difficulty and time it took to pick the lock in the first place. Easy locks never relock. Horrendously difficult and time consuming locks do. Sigh ....