Squire Lp9 Padlock

[antaean3000]

I would like to find out if the Squire Lp9 padlock is a hard one to pick?



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"Hardened steel 6.3mm diameter shackle, 37.6mm wide solid brass body, 5 pin tumbler locking mechanism"

I have this lock coming as i ordered one online and i would like to know how easy for a noob it would be to learn to pick. On ebay it says this lock had good security and is intended for uses like briefcases and sports bags and lugage.

Any info would be cool. I am not sure if it has any type of security to stop lock picking but one user on youtube claims that it has things to stop lock picking but i cant confirm this as its hear say.

[Solomon]

Generally speaking, any padlock that size is junk regardless of who makes it (with the exception of abloy, apparently they make luggage locks with the protec in them ). They're ok to give you a general idea of tension and what it feels like when the pins are all set, but that's about it. They have really sloppy tolerances because the components are so tiny, which means it doesn't matter how much tension you apply, and any kind of general motion inside the keyway will cause 99% them to fall open within 5 seconds. They promote very sloppy technique, and the sooner you get off them, the better.

That being said, if youtube guy is right, it's not too bad. I have a tiny little abus 60/30 which has a couple of spools in it, so there definately could be some in the LP9. If it has spools, it'll pretty much force you to do more than just apply tension and wiggle your pick. Which is good. You'll be able to drop it into false set very easily, so it'll be a nice introduction to spool pins, but you really need to be able to pick your other locks first... and when I say picking, I don't mean bypassing them by accident.

How are you getting on with those other locks anyway?

[antaean3000]

Well i bypassed the weather proof lock. one of the brass ones i can pick every time by brushing the pins. the second brass one i just cant open.
But when my tools come which i ordered then i may stand a better chance

I ordered this set

http://www.ukbumpkeys.com/product_23pc-GOSO-Lock-Pick-Set_1873_index.php

The reviews on youtube of this set seem to be good. They have different types of picks for different locks and also a auto set too.

[Solomon]

Yeah, I have one of the goso sets... it's alright, but not magnificent. I only use a couple of the hook picks out of the entire thing, and even then it's only once in a while. I've used the auto tools a couple of times aswell; the Klom navigators are far better but the tension tool with the goso kit is pretty good. You should check your other thread, there is some discussion going on about the stuff in there. LSA linked to his review page aswell.

[antaean3000]

Yeah, I have one of the goso sets... it's alright, but not magnificent. I only use a couple of the hook picks out of the entire thing, and even then it's only once in a while. I've used the auto tools a couple of times aswell; the Klom navigators are far better but the tension tool with the goso kit is pretty good. You should check your other thread, there is some discussion going on about the stuff in there. LSA linked to his review page aswell.

WOuld the goso set be ok for picking locks?
I will have a £100 budget for picks and stuff. I want to get a good range of picks
and maybe a pick gun to.

[Solomon]

WOuld the goso set be ok for picking locks?
I will have a £100 budget for picks and stuff. I want to get a good range of picks
and maybe a pick gun to.

It's a set of lock picks, so in a word, yes. That's kinda what they're designed for.

It's not the best set you could have ordered though. At first glance it's a big set with lots of variety, but reality will set in once they arrive. The rakes are too big and bulky, the car tools are very basic (as if you'll get any proper use out them anyway) and only one of the tension wrenches is really any good. It's a big fancy looking kit, but it's anything but.

The hooks are the only picks in the whole set which actually fit our keyways properly, and even then they're still a bit on the thick side... I like the hooks though, they seem a bit stronger than the rest of the stuff in there. Speaking of which, go easy on them. They have crappy tensile strength and zero memory, so they bend whichever way you put stress on them and even the slightest bend you put in them will be there to stay. God help you if you try to bend them back... they're paper clips melted into a sheet and stamped out into fancy shapes, so if you do bend them, just leave them as they are. You'll only weaken the metal more if you try to fix them.

Soooo... you pretty much paid 25 quid for 5 hooks and a couple of rakes. About those rakes, they just about fit our keyways and no more. You can't angle them at all or get them around any kind of warding, so if raking is your thing you're gonna be very let down. If you paid the same for a regular set you actually would have gotten way more for your money, even though it looks like less.

[thelockpickkid]

Do you want to continue picking or do you think your going to get bored with it and move on? Thats the question you need to ask yourself, if you plan on picking and progressing in locksport and not quitting, it really isn't a waste of money to get some good picks, they last forever if you use them right. I really recommend HPC picks, they are great, I have opened hundreds of locks with the set that I have, some for fun and others for big bucks in my pocket! Get yourself a set and if you don't like them, contact me and I will buy them back from you. Sure you can get Southords, but they bend and tweak and then are useless. I have been there and done that.

[antaean3000]

picking is something i plan to do for a long time not just a one of thing. What got me in to it is my dad he used to pick locks when i lost the key like when i lost the key to my cash tin he got it open and it did not take him too long.

I just hope the picks i ordered can do those padlocks i have. They have small key holes.

My aim is to open locks within 3 mins like other youtube people do when they pick locks.

I want to do padlocks then chubb locks and locker locks
these are all the type of locks laying around my house.

I lockers in my garage with locks i have padlocks a chubb lock which looks like something bulky. I also have a yale door lock
and then some latch type locks on the garage door.

The last thing i have is a master padlock its one of the bulky grass ones which have things in place to make it harder to shim and it cant be cut with bolt cutters so they claim.

But the main thing i want to pick is the Squire LP9 i like this lock mainly because its dinky it has LP9 on it and i just want it to be my first real pick.
Yeah iv picked a 99p padlock and iv bypassed a £5 padlock
but i think the LP9 will be harder to get open then any of the locks iv tried to pick so far.

My brass padlock i can pick it in 10 seconds flat by brushing a few of the pins then it turns and that is the 99p padlock i used to use for loacking the case inplace on my desktop "kinda a novelty" some pc cases have a thing on them for padlocks lol.

[antaean3000]

Which picks on this site are good

[url]devonlocks.co.uk[/url]

[antaean3000]

I am thinking of just giving up. i spent two hours tonight on the padlocks and all i got was sore fingers and two of the 4 pins would stay in place as i picked them but they soon came back down again.

i guess the sore finger part sucks from using the tension tool for so long.

[thelockpickkid]

I am thinking of just giving up. i spent two hours tonight on the padlocks and all i got was sore fingers and two of the 4 pins would stay in place as i picked them but they soon came back down again.

i guess the sore finger part sucks from using the tension tool for so long.

Don't give up yet! You just started, if I can pick locks, you can I promise. There are some tutorials on here that explain everything in depth. Really go thru these. You have to start at the beggining, just like we all had to. Sometimes you have to know exactly how locks work before you can pick them. Don't give up just read and practice.

[antaean3000]

I am thinking of just giving up. i spent two hours tonight on the padlocks and all i got was sore fingers and two of the 4 pins would stay in place as i picked them but they soon came back down again.

i guess the sore finger part sucks from using the tension tool for so long.

Don't give up yet! You just started, if I can pick locks, you can I promise. There are some tutorials on here that explain everything in depth. Really go thru these. You have to start at the beggining, just like we all had to. Sometimes you have to know exactly how locks work before you can pick them. Don't give up just read and practice.

Ok i wont give up. I just think i was doing it wrong.

I just think if i cant open this simple lock then how i am going to open any but i guess i just got to get the ride tools and learn all i can.

[thelockpickkid]

Get a small set of HPC picks, not too expensive but still good quality and will last forever. Will make you experience 10 times better than with paperclips and bobby pins.

[LocksmithArmy]

HA your right where we all were. picking your first lock takes forever... once you get it you will have a revalation about your own technique and you will be able to pick more... and I mean pick not pypass or rake.

Biggest tip is read read read, shoot, Im still reading every day on the subject...

after you have read and got a good bead on a perticular topic... test it... learn it and do it...

then practice practice pratice... you will be pickin everything before you know it

[antaean3000]

where in the uk can i get the HPC picks online?