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Squire Lp9 Padlock

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby Solomon » 18 Nov 2009 19:56

antaean3000 wrote:where in the uk can i get the HPC picks online?

Don't think any UK sites stock them. I haven't used HPCs, but I can tell you that you don't need to buy HPC just cos the kid says they're stronger than southord. ;) I've had my southords for well over a year and they're still in near mint condition, even though I can be a little hard on them at times. If you're really that worried about breaking picks, buy petersons. They're not the cheapest, mind you...although their city pick set looks really good and it's been reduced to $50 on lockpickshop. The postage will bump that up a bit, but they'll be well worth it.
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby antaean3000 » 19 Nov 2009 7:39

I will try and get some better picks.

I want to get my new lock open

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But my tools have not arrived yet.

Does this look like a tough one for a n00b?
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby raimundo » 19 Nov 2009 9:58

You need smaller picks for small keyways, the goso will be too large. to get smaller picks, you need to make them.
sweeper bristle is the best material for making your first picks, it does not require a lot of mass wasting to get down to the profile you intend to make, so the amount of filing you need to do is about thirty strokes with a sharp new flat file to make a pickshaft.
You will do this better with some experience so don't expect to have a learning curve without some wrong turns to educate you better. The real trick is to just pull up you socks and start over when you get one cut too deep.

cutting too deep is how you destroy a pick while makeing it. not cutting deep enough is something that if you decide that is the problem, you can always cut more off. If its not going well, stop, rest, think about how its going and decide that you need to cut deeper, you can do it.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby antaean3000 » 20 Nov 2009 5:19

It would be easier to drill the squire then make picks. I have nothing other then bobby pins to make my own picks. Surely they make a set of picks that would for picking smaller padlocks.
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby Solomon » 20 Nov 2009 13:26

antaean3000 wrote:It would be easier to drill the squire then make picks. I have nothing other then bobby pins to make my own picks. Surely they make a set of picks that would for picking smaller padlocks.

They don't make anything specifically for tiny padlocks lke that, but slimline picks get around them just fine.
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby exspook » 21 Nov 2009 14:39

try the southord site, I have ordered stuff from them and had no problems with UK delivery, or have a good look at the multipick site (plus they take paypal)

go for the slimline sets else they will bind in standard UK locks
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby exspook » 21 Nov 2009 14:40

try a tri circle padlock or even a squire as the keyway section is more open for getting in at it
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby antaean3000 » 29 Nov 2009 14:45

Iv been trying for days to get my locks open with my picks iv tried different preasure on the tension tool ,light ,medium ,heavy
iv tried raking them iv tried using the diamond tool iv tried to bypass
also tried the hook picks to get each pin 1 by 1 iv tried the snake rake but after
all the time iv spent on it i dont believe lock picking is easy as people make it out to be.

My friend said its art of its own picking locks. I just think other lock pickers are being modest when they say its easy.
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby LocksmithArmy » 29 Nov 2009 14:57

have you done any reading?
LSI guide
MIT guide
the art of lockpicking
anything of the sort?

if not, I suggest you do so, reading and studying is the first thing you should do... study and practice are the most importnt things when starting out... then it just comes down to practice... with study on the side... but for now Id suggest one of the boocks above, or any other book...

here is a couple guides written by members(there are plenty more):
http://theamazingking.com/lockpicking.html check out the techniques page
or my own
http://www.locksmitharmy.com/lock-picking.php

enjoy
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby antaean3000 » 29 Nov 2009 15:02

LocksmithArmy wrote:have you done any reading?
LSI guide
MIT guide
the art of lockpicking
anything of the sort?

if not, I suggest you do so, reading and studying is the first thing you should do... study and practice are the most importnt things when starting out... then it just comes down to practice... with study on the side... but for now Id suggest one of the boocks above, or any other book...

here is a couple guides written by members(there are plenty more):
http://theamazingking.com/lockpicking.html check out the techniques page
or my own
http://www.locksmitharmy.com/lock-picking.php

enjoy


Iv read the mit it came with my picks. Iv watched several lock picking videos and how locks work and how to pick them and the guys on the videos make it look easy. I can feel the pins i know i get them all in place as ic heard 4 clicks
but still wont open.
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby LocksmithArmy » 29 Nov 2009 15:14

I would read more bro... the videos on YT are cool and all but how can you learn when you cannot see or feel what they are doing... they just stick the picks in and open the lock, not saying they are cheating at all but you wont learn by watching somthing you cant see. reading is good because they can describe feeling and have pictures and if you are not getting it you can read again and again...

there are a few good videos that actually teach... hopefully you have foun them. then just keep practacing, feeling in the lock and guessing what is happening is a good way, the more you guess right the more you will begin to learn what some things actually feel like. then it wont be guesses, you will know an overset pin because you have felt it before.

you seem to have all the tools, now put in the time :)
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby antaean3000 » 29 Nov 2009 15:39

LocksmithArmy wrote:I would read more bro... the videos on YT are cool and all but how can you learn when you cannot see or feel what they are doing... they just stick the picks in and open the lock, not saying they are cheating at all but you wont learn by watching somthing you cant see. reading is good because they can describe feeling and have pictures and if you are not getting it you can read again and again...

there are a few good videos that actually teach... hopefully you have foun them. then just keep practacing, feeling in the lock and guessing what is happening is a good way, the more you guess right the more you will begin to learn what some things actually feel like. then it wont be guesses, you will know an overset pin because you have felt it before.

you seem to have all the tools, now put in the time :)

You cant really see what going on in side the lock when your picking.

About 10 mins ago i got the master lock to pop open. i got the tension right i know now. Its just working out the pins. Raking the master did not work alone i raked to get a few in place then i used the diamon tool and one of the hook shaped ones. Pop it opened right up.

Just one question how can you avoid stabbing yourself with the picking tools
iv put the diamond tool and the rake right in to my finger and cut myself.

I can get a 2 pin lock open with east the 4 pin master i got that open once but i will keep trying to open the master.

I was just admiting defeat. Yes i got some reading to do but me and reading via pdf just dont get on i rather have a book in front of me any idea where i could find some hard copys of good picking books?
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby antaean3000 » 29 Nov 2009 15:43

LocksmithArmy wrote:you seem to have all the tools, now put in the time :)


Your right and thats a very good advice. I will listen to it. I have hours on my hands every evening after 7pm i can sit down for a few hours each night.

I could not believe it when the master poped right open. I cant believe i use its bigger brother to keep my stuff safe.

I managed to pick up a master warded lock up for £1 on ebay
and a front door yale type lock on ebay for £1.20

I just keep looking out for locks on ebay to practise on mainly because they are cheaper if second hand.
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby LocksmithArmy » 29 Nov 2009 16:08

antaean3000 wrote:
Just one question how can you avoid stabbing yourself with the picking tools
iv put the diamond tool and the rake right in to my finger and cut myself.


lol
be more careful... see how many cuts and stab wounds you get when making picks... just about everyone can contest to bleeding for this sport...
I sank about 1 inch of a pick through my thme the other day lol. cut myself on every pick I make almost...
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Re: Squire Lp9 Padlock

Postby antaean3000 » 29 Nov 2009 17:03

LocksmithArmy wrote:
antaean3000 wrote:
Just one question how can you avoid stabbing yourself with the picking tools
iv put the diamond tool and the rake right in to my finger and cut myself.


lol
be more careful... see how many cuts and stab wounds you get when making picks... just about everyone can contest to bleeding for this sport...
I sank about 1 inch of a pick through my thme the other day lol. cut myself on every pick I make almost...

Lol. They should make them more blunt "joke".
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