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by noctorum » 27 Aug 2004 20:21
I can't seem to find a lot of information on them, I was wondering if I could get a few general questions answered
1. I hear about adjustable tubular lockpicks, whats the process for adjusting them?
2. What kind of tension wrench would you use for it, or does the device itself provide the tension?
3. What is a good pair of tubular lockpicks (7 and 8 pins) for a good price, and high quality? If you could, mention the cheapest you can get without getting ripped off, and the most expensive if your serious about learning but don't own your own business.
Many thanks in advance for the help
~Alex
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by Mad Mick » 27 Aug 2004 20:56
noctorum wrote:I can't seem to find a lot of information on them, I was wondering if I could get a few general questions answered  1. I hear about adjustable tubular lockpicks, whats the process for adjusting them?
The tubular pick has a tension ring which applies equal tension to each 'feeler'. As the pick is introduced to the lock, the tension ring attempts to counter the force exerted by each individual pin spring, and leave the pins at the shear line. A few successive 'wiggles' may be needed to get all of the pins lined up. Since the introduction of AceII locks, where springs of differing strength are used, some 'feelers' are required to be manipulated manually. 2. What kind of tension wrench would you use for it, or does the device itself provide the tension?
You got it. The pick only pushes the pins in. Tension is applied by yourself, by twisting the pick handle, usually clockwise. 3. What is a good pair of tubular lockpicks (7 and 8 pins) for a good price, and high quality? If you could, mention the cheapest you can get without getting ripped off, and the most expensive if your serious about learning but don't own your own business. Many thanks in advance for the help ~Alex
To be honest, I don't use tubular picks. From a hobby perspective I feel they are a waste of money and take the fun out of picking. If you regularly encounter tubular locks as part of your job, by all means get a tubular pick, but doing the work yourself is a lot more gratifying. There are more than one or two posts regarding tubular picks, and one goes into detail about the modification process of a seven pin pick, into an eight pin pick.
If this is what you are looking for, try the search function at the top of the page. There's about five pages returned on a search for tubular lock picks...more than enough to keep you occupied for a while.
HTH,
Mad Mick.
BTW, welcome.
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by Helmeester » 29 Aug 2004 6:52
i saw a picture lately, of some sort of tensioner and a needle pick, put into a tubular lock, is it possible to pick a tubular lock without a specific tubular lockpick as described in the previous posts?
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by Mad Mick » 29 Aug 2004 17:39
Yes. You need a closely-fitting wrench which fits into the square notch in the plug. Apply light tension and pick the pins by pressing them into the lock. Testing the pins beforehand, without tension, will give you a rough idea as to how far the pins need to go...just please push down lightly. Push too heavily and you'll compress the springs.
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by Helmeester » 30 Aug 2004 16:32
is that a more, or less popular way of picking tubular locks? i never really heard this method before i saw that picture
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by Mad Mick » 30 Aug 2004 18:31
Seems to be the less popular way...everybody wants the wonder-tool to do the fun part for them. Once you have manually picked a tubular, unless you are against the clock as part of your job, you'll prefer to stick at manual picking as opposed to using a tubular pick. The tubular pick will open most locks, but some manual picking may be neccessary on AceII locks, due to the combination of springs of differing tension used.
TBH, I can't think of anything more boring than sitting at home with a tubular pick, and opening locks. Translate this to pin tumblers and you may as well use the key. 
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by Chucklz » 30 Aug 2004 18:51
The Peterson Pro-1 is a great pick that still leaves "the fun" in. Its big and expensive and scary looking though. If you go this route, make sure you have all your tubular locks mounted. This thing is pretty impossible to use "freehand" with a padlock.
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by hzatorsk » 1 Sep 2004 7:33
Mad Mick wrote:TBH, I can't think of anything more boring than sitting at home with a tubular pick, and opening locks. Translate this to pin tumblers and you may as well use the key. 
...True Mad Mick! But on the other hand, I find pin picking the darn thing four times boring. Twice to get it open, twice to close it again.
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by franko452000 » 4 Sep 2004 10:39
what is this bull.!! time is money.. if there's a tool out there ! such as the tubuler 7 & 8 pick.. let's use it.!! it makes you no more less a man or a locksmith to use it.....
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by Varjeal » 4 Sep 2004 10:44
franko452000: I think you've missed the entire point of this site. The vast majority of people who visit this site daily are HOBBYISTS/SPORT Lockpickers...
In essence, that means they do it for the FUN or competive nature of it, not for money. Some like the challenge of using improvised tools to pick with, and for this it provides a special challenge. In this case, "time" is most certainly NOT "money."
*insert witty comment here*
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by franko452000 » 4 Sep 2004 10:56
hi varjeal.. i was just wanting to get a alarm from some-one.. i love this site: teaching myself the trade: it is a lifeline..i have these picks & having trouble picking those coke machines..
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