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Master 220

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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Postby Mad Mick » 29 Aug 2004 17:31

Don't be hard on yourself. It could be that the lock is one of the older ones, or just that Master don't always put spools in. They seem to be placed at random.
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Postby Varjeal » 29 Aug 2004 23:03

Had the pleasure this evening of opening a Master 220 with Harley Davidson Motorcycle and their logo engraved or stamped onto the lock. The padlock was attached upside down to the steering system of a gorgeous purple 80 something soft tail. Dude left his keys a province away and needed it unlcoked in order to move.

Anyways, because of the cramped position it was in and being upside down, it took me a good 4-5 minutes to pick the bloody thing...sure enough, it had 3 spool pins in it....Anyways it looked mighty impressive to the customer cause they are indeed big and heavy and shiny locks. The cylinder comes out with a small hex key, but you have to be careful 'cause there's a couple of long pins and a spring that can fall out if you're not watching careful. It's not a hassle to put 'em back in, but if you don't know they're there you could be looking for 'em for awhile.

Lots of fun. 8)

P.S. Make sure you use light tension and either a slim-line or small-tipped pick for these.
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Postby tastyfish » 30 Aug 2004 6:05

Make sure you use light tension and either a slim-line or small-tipped pick for these.


yea i noticed this... why do you need light tension... if you know anyway
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Postby Hojo » 30 Aug 2004 6:08

Thats a good question tasty I never though of that, I guess its just like normal locks if you push to hard they bind the pins, but today when I was watching you and skold picking it, you were just putting in a rake and bobbing it up and down, if you single pin picked it I dont think you would need so light tension, but then I only picked it twice....Interesting
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Postby Mad Mick » 30 Aug 2004 18:15

These locks are a definite step up from your common #3 & #140 etc. The keyway seems to be drilled a little closer in line with regards to machining tolerance. The closer the machining, the more important tension becomes.
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Postby skold » 31 Aug 2004 4:36

they sure are, i added spools to mine just before...took 3 mins single pin picking
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Postby Helmeester » 31 Aug 2004 16:10

i want to get a master lock too :( too bad they aren't really sold in the netherlands
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Postby skold » 5 Sep 2004 5:58

hmm yester day i bashed my 220 to pieces.. i must advise you to NEVER EVER EVER take one fully apart...i took me half an hour to work out where this little bar thing went, it was a shackle retainer thing...well these locks ere easy with slimline picks, even if they have spools
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