Technique w/bogotas?

[DCDX]

Hi forum, long time lurker first time poster!

I made my first bogota tonight, and i was curious as to the technique you guys are using....

Ive seen raimundo mention actions as if "you've drunk too much coffee", but i was wondering if this means a more up/down jittery motion as opposed to in/out raking. So far ive had no luck with it, no matter which way i try...even on locks i can SPP....


Im fairly sure the dimensions of the pick are ok (one pin on the peak, one in the valley etc, measured against a barrel)?

Any input would be much appreciated, thanks guys!

[rontgens]

This youtube video explains good techniques for bogota raking.
http://www.youtube.com/user/wizwazzle#p/u/101/-nFV-KksseQ

[pjzstones]

i did a review of a set that i just recently made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2boa3lyC7Q

[lock2006]

i did a review of a set that i just recently made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2boa3lyC7Q

These two bogotas are really nice pjzstones, review and Technique great
thanks for sharing this video.

[pjzstones]

i did a review of a set that i just recently made.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2boa3lyC7Q

These two bogotas are really nice pjzstones, review and Technique great
thanks for sharing this video.

thanks man

[Unsightly Picks]

Kinda a side note.
Everyone develops their own style. If the keyway permits most people will use the same pick nearly 100% of the time. Although some of us like to have a half diamond as a rake then a hook for spp, just to get the easy buggers out of the way. You will find you technique with raking will change with keyway, spring tension, angle and lock depth. My main point, is take everything with a grain of salt, something that will work with one variety of lock might not with another, and sometimes might not even work with another lock of the same brand.

[Legion303]

Up and down motion. Your peaks aren't sharp enough. With a real Bogota, you'll be tearing up your pins pretty badly if you try sawing the pick in and out.

-steve

[DCDX]

Thanks a lot guys! These are very helpful

[DCDX]

Kinda a side note.
Everyone develops their own style. If the keyway permits most people will use the same pick nearly 100% of the time. Although some of us like to have a half diamond as a rake then a hook for spp, just to get the easy buggers out of the way. You will find you technique with raking will change with keyway, spring tension, angle and lock depth. My main point, is take everything with a grain of salt, something that will work with one variety of lock might not with another, and sometimes might not even work with another lock of the same brand.

Very true.

[DCDX]

Up and down motion. Your peaks aren't sharp enough. With a real Bogota, you'll be tearing up your pins pretty badly if you try sawing the pick in and out.

-steve

Thanks, i'll have a go at getting them a bit sharper.

[raimundo]

perhaps if you thinned the pickshaft a bit, allowing a place for the pins to drop whent he pick is deep, until you do that you all you have is that pick tip
use light pulsed tension and a loose grip, shake the pick up and down and pull in and out, tilt bac and forth

if that dosent get it tell me the brand of the lock.

[E1001]

The way I do it is jiggle and shake up and down as fast as I can and slightly back and forth

[NoZen]

I'm more in the "scrub" than "jiggle" or "shake" camps... but it's a light scrubbing. Definitely nothing caffeinated.

However, consider that it might well be the tension side where you're making the mistake. For me, very light tension is often the solution with the bogota - so light that sometimes the way I know I've picked the lock is not that I feel the cylinder turn, but that the pins have all stopped moving.

[diazaman]

Hi forum, long time lurker first time poster!
I made my first bogota tonight, and i was curious as to the technique you guys are using....

Ive seen raimundo mention actions as if "you've drunk too much coffee", but i was wondering if this means a more up/down jittery motion as opposed to in/out raking. So far ive had no luck with it, no matter which way i try...even on locks i can SPP....


Im fairly sure the dimensions of the pick are ok (one pin on the peak, one in the valley etc, measured against a barrel)?

Any input would be much appreciated, thanks guys!

hey bro i know ther're many different ways to work a bogota ! BUT I FIND IF YOU ADD ALITTLE MORE TENSION THAN USUAL KINDA LOCK THE PINS IN THEN INSERT UR BOGOTA AND ROCK/SLIDE/SLITHER OVER THE PINS ALL THE WHILE APPLYING A FAIR AMOUNT OF DOWNWARD PRESSURE WHEN 1 FEELS LIKE IT'LL SET EASE OFF A BIT ON THE TENSION 'TIL IT DOES SET KEEP GOIN' ALL THE WAY 2 THE BACK THEN REVERSE BACK 2 THE FRONT U MAY BE ABLE TO SET 'EM ALL ON 1 PASS THIS IS ALOT SLOWER THAN THE ESSPRESSO METHOD IN COMPARISON BUT U MAY OPEN UR LOCK ALOT QUICKER ! PEACE DIAZAMAN

[E1001]

hey bro i know ther're many different ways to work a bogota ! BUT I FIND IF YOU ADD ALITTLE MORE TENSION THAN USUAL KINDA LOCK THE PINS IN THEN INSERT UR BOGOTA AND ROCK/SLIDE/SLITHER OVER THE PINS ALL THE WHILE APPLYING A FAIR AMOUNT OF DOWNWARD PRESSURE WHEN 1 FEELS LIKE IT'LL SET EASE OFF A BIT ON THE TENSION 'TIL IT DOES SET KEEP GOIN' ALL THE WAY 2 THE BACK THEN REVERSE BACK 2 THE FRONT U MAY BE ABLE TO SET 'EM ALL ON 1 PASS THIS IS ALOT SLOWER THAN THE ESSPRESSO METHOD IN COMPARISON BUT U MAY OPEN UR LOCK ALOT QUICKER ! PEACE DIAZAMAN

It took me a few times reading to understand what you were saying. Maybe ease of the caps a bit? Just a friendly suggestion