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Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby UnlockD » 8 Apr 2010 21:33

So I purchased a re-pinnable cylinder and was just wondering about set-ups.
I have added a few spools and a mushroom, but manage to pick it moderately quickly.
Are there any set-ups to aid in learning?
Such as a long first pin, High-Low pinning, etc?
Just curious, and looking to learn, thanks.
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby Josh K » 8 Apr 2010 22:21

Just continuously rotate the pinning. :)

Move the spools / mushroom drivers around, add master wafers, long first pins, bitting that threatens MACS restrictions.
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby Eyes_Only » 8 Apr 2010 23:57

What I did before was buy this little LAB kit, http://www.lockpicks.com/highsecuritypinkit.aspx and pin up my locks with those special drivers while totally violating MACS. But that has gotten a bit stale, so now I counter-bore the pin chambers in the plug with a tap & die set like how it is on ASSA locks and that makes it a bit harder to differentiate a false set from a real one.
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby Josh K » 9 Apr 2010 14:22

Eyes_Only wrote:What I did before was buy this little LAB kit, http://www.lockpicks.com/highsecuritypinkit.aspx and pin up my locks with those special drivers while totally violating MACS. But that has gotten a bit stale, so now I counter-bore the pin chambers in the plug with a tap & die set like how it is on ASSA locks and that makes it a bit harder to differentiate a false set from a real one.


"But that has gotten a bit stale." :D

Why not just work over an Assa Twin?
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby Eyes_Only » 9 Apr 2010 14:27

I'm building up to it. :lol:
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby UnlockD » 9 Apr 2010 19:53

I've taken all replies into consideration, thanks a bunch !
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby gilduran » 14 Jun 2010 19:14

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Eyes_Only wrote:What I did before was buy this little LAB kit, http://www.lockpicks.com/highsecuritypinkit.aspx and pin up my locks with those special drivers while totally violating MACS. But that has gotten a bit stale, so now I counter-bore the pin chambers in the plug with a tap & die set like how it is on ASSA locks and that makes it a bit harder to differentiate a false set from a real one.



What type of locks does this set work on? I'd like to start re-pinning my Brink/Master/American locks to make them a little more challenging.

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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby Eyes_Only » 18 Jun 2010 15:03

This set is unfortunately not for padlocks but for regular sized locks. I don't practice much on padlocks (although I should cos I suck at picking some of them) but if I were to make those more challenging I would try to harvest some spool and spoolrated drivers from a few American brand padlock and use those.
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby pjzstones » 20 Jun 2010 4:25

if you could train a friend... and then have them pin it up as random and as hard as they can would be interesting. i've thought about here and there, but i have no suitable candidates.
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby gilduran » 21 Jun 2010 13:25

Those are both good ideas. I may check to see what I can find on eBay for American locks. Maybe I'll get lucky and find a bunch without keys. Then I could enlist my wife to help re-pin them.

Just out of curiosity. What size is the plug of an American lock? I tried searching the forum, but can't find anything that mentions the dimensions. I'd like to avoid having to shell out any money for a plug follower set. Especially when I already have variosu sizes of Delrin rods laying around.
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Re: Re-Pinnable Cylinder practice set-ups

Postby unbreakable » 25 Jun 2010 17:25

Just took one unpinned one apart and took the caliper to it, looks like the plug diameter is 1.03 cm, or 0.405 in.

I'd probably use a "small plug follower" (available online), which is listed as having a .398 in diameter.

I also have an excess of american lock cylinders lying around if you'd like to buy a few just shoot me a pm.

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