Help with a keymark lock - turned it halfway, now its stuck.

[ENGR]

Hi,

My first post on the forums, so forgive me if there's something I'm missing here. I will try to provide as much information as possible to help diagnose the problem.

I have a keymark lock that I picked and I was able to turn it half way, however it "locked" as I said after half a turn and now I'm not sure what to do. It seems that all the pins are depressed and something else is keeping it from turning. Now I can't seem to be able to place a key in it either. The idea is to keep the key from being removed before you finish a full turn to unlock the door.

See the attached image - I hope it'll help.

Any help is VERY much appreciated!

Picture:
http://cl.ly/NY1

[unlisted]

Call a locksmith, or the owner of the lock/building and apologize. Sorry, we cannot help you with this.


I will say this, Do not pick locks you do not own, do not pick locks in use. I have a sneaking suspicion you fall into one if not two of the above.

[Squelchtone]

oh look, you've made the list:

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=42970

Squelchtone

[Klaiviel]

::facepalm::

[Josh K]

Call a locksmith, or the owner of the lock/building and apologize. Sorry, we cannot help you with this.

+1.

This is a redundant safety feature of the lock to avoid people trying to pick it. If there isn't a key in there it will lock itself backwards. Completely irreversible.

[unlisted]

Call a locksmith, or the owner of the lock/building and apologize. Sorry, we cannot help you with this.

+1.

This is a redundant safety feature of the lock to avoid people trying to pick it. If there isn't a key in there it will lock itself backwards. Completely irreversible.

+1 keymark did make a good anti pick feature.. Other locks should follow suit more..

[ENGR]

I do not wish to cause any trouble - there's an unreasonable fee for locking myself out of the room (~$500) and I'm only hoping to avoid it. I just don't have that kind of money right now. It's also against my contract terms to bring in any outside "vendors" and having work done on the room. The list includes locksmiths, as well as painters, carpenters, etc.

If [edit- please READ what others have posted-unlisted] I was actually quite excited when I got it picked as the only other one I've ever been able to do is the small hand held kind.

Anyhow have a nice day. Again I do not mean any harm, I hope my post isn't taken the wrong way.

[unlisted]

Okay, I guess I will say it again- KEYMARK has a ANTI PICK feature, thus making your lock inoperable until it is repaired by a PROFESSIONAL. (it needs to be drilled out)

Bite the bullet, and contact the admin staff @ a Texas university. Maybe you can ask for a reduced fee..?

[unlisted]

I have sent you a PM, please read it.

[Squelchtone]

Okay, I guess I will say it again- KEYMARK has a ANTI PICK feature, thus making your lock inoperable until it is repaired by a PROFESSIONAL. (it needs to be drilled out)

wait.. really? cant you just do the normal procedure to reverse the 180?

[ChemicalRobot]

wait.. really? cant you just do the normal procedure to reverse the 180?

If you're talking about the lifting method, probably not. KeyMark locks have warding between the key pins, so you wouldn't be able to lift as far as you need. Might be able to develop some comb-like tool to fit in there, though.

[Rickthepick]

ouch

[ENGR]

wait.. really? cant you just do the normal procedure to reverse the 180?

If you're talking about the lifting method, probably not. KeyMark locks have warding between the key pins, so you wouldn't be able to lift as far as you need. Might be able to develop some comb-like tool to fit in there, though.

here's the resolution to my situation:

I was able to insert the edge of a paper clip with a diameter nearly that of the width of the keyhole - and get the pins "unstuck". It was a tight fit in the keyhole but in the end it did the job. I turned it the right way round and left it as is. Talked to my landlord and got him to make me a new key for about $50. I'm certainly not complaining here.

I HAVE LEARNED MY LESSON - don't attempt to pick locks in use or locks that you do not own.

unlisted - holy !@#$ man you scared the bejeeses out of me. But alas I'm more than happy to have the lock back in shape.

For what it's worth I got me a padlock from walmart and cracked it within 5 minutes.. off we go now to buying a legit set of tools.. or at least when I get a bit more money

Here is just something I was thinking about: if a key inserted in the keyhole would turn the lock, there HAS to be a way to pick it. There is no physical way (that I can think of) to have a lock work when a key is inserted, but then have it pickproof. Sure you can shave your tolerances down and make it a lot harder to do, but that would also make the lock unreasonably expensive.

Till next time..

ENGR

[unlisted]

Try picking one of these than..

https://securitysnobs.com/Abloy-BODA-Gu ... gn=Generic

Or this:

https://securitysnobs.com/Abloy-Protec- ... dlock.html

[ENGR]

Heh, like I said..

wait.. really? cant you just do the normal procedure to reverse the 180?

Sure you can shave your tolerances down and make it a lot harder to do, but that would also make the lock unreasonably expensive.

$350