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Anyone picked their London lock yet?

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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby mhole » 5 May 2010 12:57

The Ingersol London Line cylinder is an MTL interactive, but it has a different profile and a snap secure hardened steel strip in the centre of the cylinder.
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby Rickthepick » 8 May 2010 6:50

impressive pin setup, suprised i could pick it to be honest

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The first pin in the cylinder is always going to be high lift due to the floating pin element.

Also note the back pin is some crazy split pin in pin
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby Theist17 » 9 May 2010 10:19

Ho-lee crap. That pin setup is incredible.

I know it's beyond my present abilities, but man do I want one!
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby femurat » 10 May 2010 2:50

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I did my homework on friday evening :)
I was lucky to pick it before seeing your picture of the pins, otherwise I could have been worried! Impressive setup.
I picked the outer pins with the big one and then the inner pins with the micro diamond and hook.

Could the split pin be a sort of bump protection?

Cheers :)
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby Rickthepick » 10 May 2010 3:19

well done.

not sure on the purpose of the split pin but i wonder if it would separate enough to create an additional sheer line :idea:
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby femurat » 10 May 2010 4:21

The pin has a section that suggest me that it isn't possible, but this is just a wild guess.
If you're really curious why don't you try it yourself? Put in just that pin, in the second chamber I suggest, and then test your idea!

Cheers :)
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby datagram » 10 May 2010 10:36

Rickthepick wrote:well done.

not sure on the purpose of the split pin but i wonder if it would separate enough to create an additional sheer line :idea:


It's a Split-D pin used to prevent bumping. Standard as far as modern Mul-T-Locks go, but it is good to see it in the field. Again, more information on Split-D and all the other pins used available in the Mul-T-Lock: Design and Security paper. I will attempt to stop whoring that paper now.

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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby Squelchtone » 10 May 2010 11:50

Nice job guys! I like your idea of using a folded piece of white paper to show the pin stacks. It photographs really well.

keep up the good work,
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby bouncer965 » 11 May 2010 7:01

Picked mine within 20 minutes of getting it. Cheers rickthepick. First dimple lock that ive picked too.
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby phrygianradar » 8 Feb 2013 10:54

I just got a Mul-T-Lock a few days ago and have only tinkered around with it for a few minutes, nothing serious yet. I know this is an old thread, but do any of you who have succesively picked one of these have any pointers or pitfalls to watch out for? I feel like I got a bit of movement out of it, but had to stop picking because something came up that I had to attend to right away. Does this lock respond like a normal pin and tumbler? I mean if you get binding pin to go to the shear line will it give you that familiar, "click"? In the ten or so minutes I was playing around with it, I got a few of these wierd pin-in-pin things to bind and click as if they had been picked.

Just curious if anyone has any good advice from a retrospective, been there done that, view.

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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby ARF-GEF » 8 Feb 2013 17:43

I thought this was the new interactive+...

That one has some new feature added. There seems to be a second interactive (maybe magnetic?) thingy right next to old well-known moving little metal circular disk.the I've only seen pics of the key and couldn't find any infos on what's the difference between this and the old interactive.
So anyone know what's up with that?

Here the best picof the new interactive+ key I've found.:
http://www.mul-t-lock.com/res/Partner%2 ... e_page.pdf
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby ARF-GEF » 8 Feb 2013 18:00

Wow sorry, I didn't realist this was a revived thread.
Just ckeched the date after I've hit send...

phrygianradar: I'm not sue how long you have been doing this but MTL interactive is not really a beginner friendly lock to put it mildly.
You can pick it like a pin tumbler, but it requires a lot of skill. As to the feedback it should give you feedback like normal one. As a pointer think about the pins in the pins and think about shear lines and you will see what's the weakness of this pin in pin system :). Be on the lookout for false sets, spooled pins (watch for counter-rotations)! I don't want to anger the mods with saying anything more, maybe even that was too much(hopefully not). I think this is high security lock so I don't think any more pointers belong to the open forum.
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby phrygianradar » 9 Feb 2013 2:03

ARF-GEF wrote:phrygianradar: I'm not sue how long you have been doing this but MTL interactive is not really a beginner friendly lock to put it mildly.

Boy, you can say that again! I guess I was just so happy to have gotten my hands on one with a key that I didn't realize the sensitivity issue, it being high security and all. :oops:

That said, I also thought there was some sort of magnetic thingy in the key, but don't know for sure. I have been able to get into some pretty tough locks, but probably know only enough to get myself into trouble. (like a broken pick, not with the law!) I just didn't want to make a bone-headed mistake and wind up destroying my lock. I would rather have a working one to admire and show my friends than a paper weight! I thought I would ask before I really started digging into it, that is all. No need to run down my picking credentials, I am sure that most of you guys would make me look like a joker! I was happy to have picked a Schlage Everest tonight for the first time! I know I am getting better and just keep putting in the quiet hours of picking. Perhaps one day I will actually be able to open this lock, who knows. I thought it better to ask a bit of advice before saying, "I broke my Mul-T-Lock today by doing..." and all you guys laugh thinking. What a dolt, everybody knows to not do that!

Thank you all for your patience and help, I really do appreciate it. I wish I had gotten on this forum a long time ago, I have learned tons already!
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby ARF-GEF » 9 Feb 2013 5:21

The magnetic thing is a popular misconception. I've tried it and I don't think there is a magnet in it at all. At least it didn't seem to attract iron objects. That's just a little circular metal plate which can be moved. Mottura on the other hand has a lock with an actual magnet in the key pulling the pin. FUN! (The locks with magnet in them are called Mottura C30 - C31 C38.)
I would say that you shouldn't give it up on interactive, but maybe practice with simpler locks. If you are careful you won't break you pick so you don't need to shy away from more advanced locks. (Well that's all easier said than done, I know myself!)

About people making you look like a joker: Don't worry about that! I'm not a good or experienced picker either, but I never was troubled by that fact. There will always be someone out there who is a lot better in sth than you, so that really shouldn't bother you. And I don't think too many people would laugh. Even if they do, this is the internet, don't think other people or yourself too seriously. And we all broke stuff.
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Re: Anyone picked their London lock yet?

Postby phrygianradar » 11 Feb 2013 13:34

After acctually putting a bit of time into reading about and watching (youtube) others pick this lock, I decided to give it a go. The only thing that is magnetic about this lock is that is seems to literally suck your slim hook into the middle of the pin and not want to let go of it! It feels magnetic, but I know that it isn't. Plus it keeps pulling me back to try and pick it again and again! I am for sure this is out of my league, but had a good week with some nice accomplishment, so not getting this open isn't a big deal right now. One day, like David, I will slay this Goliath, only to realize he has five brothers I have to take care of next!

What a cool lock though! Seriously, eventhough mine has a bit of wear, it is still one of the cooler locks in my collection. I don't have the nerve to take it apart just yet, but once I get a bit more familiar with the inner workings and am sure I can put it back together I will love to take it apart.
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