done

[jos weyers]

Whithout any reason what-so-ever i've put this in the advanced section.
So here it is again, now worldreadable.....

done
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj9KEmLWRek

[Schuyler]

My comments in the advanced section still apply Amazing work, buddy! Can't wait for Sneek.

[Oaklandishh]

That was really fast, how long does a normal human take to impression a standard lock, like on average? Also what would be a good lock to start impressioning on, more like a masterlockk #1 or kwikset?

[pjzstones]

That was really fast, how long does a normal human take to impression a standard lock, like on average? Also what would be a good lock to start impressioning on, more like a masterlockk #1 or kwikset?

maybe 10-15 mins. i'd start with a master lock. kwikset pins are broad and flat. you'll probably get better marks from a master lock.

[jos weyers]

That was really fast, how long does a normal human take to impression a standard lock, like on average? Also what would be a good lock to start impressioning on, more like a masterlockk #1 or kwikset?

during impressiong games in the Netherlands and Germany (on ABUS C83) on average about half of the competitors open the lock under one hour.
As far as i understood (but never tried) any waferlock (like car's) are easy to start off with.

THE way to go:

buy Oli's book
attend a workshop
ruin a couple of hundred blanks

[Squelchtone]

ruin a couple of hundred blanks

Jos,
Do you prefer brass or aluminum blanks? (I remember Schuyler had a bucket full of colorful anodized aluminum blanks for common American locks like the SC1 and KW1 keys.)

Thanks for your advice,
Squelchtone

[jos weyers]

brass.

no question about it.

[Schuyler]

Yeah - aluminum snap like woah. I bought mine when I first heard about impressioning, the reason I still have so many is that they are crap

[raimundo]

I watched that, he cuts the first five positions about three times then works a bit on two or three deeper cuts,

When you watch the video, notice that he recuts every mark, in the early ones he goes one cut each from tip to bow and then another cut on each to get the full depth increment.

By noteing the number of strokes of the file, in each position, and the number or times he renews the impression, (puts key in lock and jerks)
You could probably know exactly where the deep cuts are and how many strokes for the shallow cuts.

I notice this because a fast impressioning is usually a sign of a key that has a lot of shallow cuts. Obviously a key to to many deep positions takes longer.

Still, that JOS, hes a machine.

[sparkster]

Nice going jos, i've had the pleasure of meeting both jos and oli at a workshop, these guys know their stuff, no question is to stupid, i learned a lot from the workshop i attended and my impressioning skill has come on in leaps and bounds, i've gone through most of my locks and have now started repinning them, still cracking the occasional key but not as many as i was when i first started,, yeah,, hundreds

[jos weyers]

Obviously a key to to many deep positions takes longer.

took me 1:27

i'll try to get an image of the 0:57 one soon (camera died)

[jos weyers]

(that's the one filed at HAR2009 btw)

[gilduran]

How exactly does that work? Does the jerking the key around in the lock leave impressions from the pins that are under heavy compression due to their length?

I've seen another video of one of th comps you won. Crazy thing this impressioning!

[Oaklandishh]

I think that when you turn key the key-way binds up the pins and then jerking the key leaves impressions on the blank telling you where the pins are not set.

[femurat]

Impressive!

This time you weren't happy like last year... but you still wear the kilt

Cheers