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Need my own safe picked!!!

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Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby moneyhunter00 » 4 Aug 2010 14:47

I live in the Houston, TX area. I have a 20-30 year old safe, can't remember which kind, that i USED to have the combo for, and NEVER had the key to. To have a locksmith come out and drill and hopefully put together, will cost a MINIMUM they said of $500. Anyone out there that lives in the area want some practice, or a number to someone that might? :?:
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby raimundo » 5 Aug 2010 8:12

Look on youtube for videos on how to slap around a tin can made by sentry or that fyre safe company

If you have a real safe, Just try spinning the dial five times clockwise before entering the combo very carefully, If that dosen't work, try again and this time be sensitive to the friction resistance coming through the dial, It could be that the lube is drying out, You could shoot wd40 behind the dial and then put a vibrator on it to help the lube work its way back down the spindle to the wheel pack,

If these don't work, save up for that 500 dollar job.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Dak » 5 Aug 2010 20:39

Im afraid we aren't supposed to discuss safe opening techniques.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 5 Aug 2010 20:42

raimundo wrote:Look on youtube for videos on how to slap around a tin can made by sentry or that fyre safe company

If you have a real safe, Just try spinning the dial five times clockwise before entering the combo very carefully, If that dosen't work, try again and this time be sensitive to the friction resistance coming through the dial, It could be that the lube is drying out, You could shoot wd40 behind the dial and then put a vibrator on it to help the lube work its way back down the spindle to the wheel pack,

If these don't work, save up for that 500 dollar job.


Hopefully you meant counter-clockwise.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Dak » 5 Aug 2010 20:43

Confederate wrote:
Hopefully you meant counter-clockwise.


???

on all sorts of combination dial locks ive ever encountered you turn the dial clockwise a few times before entering a possible combination.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Greedy » 5 Aug 2010 22:41

moneyhunter00 wrote:that i USED to have the combo for,:




no combination remember guys
Stupid hurts
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 6 Aug 2010 16:33

Dak wrote:
Confederate wrote:
Hopefully you meant counter-clockwise.


???

on all sorts of combination dial locks ive ever encountered you turn the dial clockwise a few times before entering a possible combination.


Sigh, I hate being drawn into these debates. I'm sure you don't remember the models, huh? Some locks dial clockwise, but most are counter-clockwise. Odds are in favor of the latter. Sargent and Greenleaf require opening turns to the left, or counter clockwise, as does LaGard. Do you see why I hate these debates? I could spend hours citing hundreds of mechanical combination locks that require the intial turn to the left. I'm not going to bother.

The majority, I'd estimate 85%, of the time you turn to the left -end of story.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby tjweaver84 » 6 Aug 2010 16:50

Confederate wrote:
Dak wrote:
Confederate wrote:
Hopefully you meant counter-clockwise.


???

on all sorts of combination dial locks ive ever encountered you turn the dial clockwise a few times before entering a possible combination.


Sigh, I hate being drawn into these debates. I'm sure you don't remember the models, huh? Some locks dial clockwise, but most are counter-clockwise. Odds are in favor of the latter. Sargent and Greenleaf require opening turns to the left, or counter clockwise, as does LaGard. Do you see why I hate these debates? I could spend hours citing hundreds of mechanical combination locks that require the intial turn to the left. I'm not going to bother.

The majority, I'd estimate 85%, of the time you turn to the left -end of story.


[sarcasm]But Confederate all my Master combo locks start to the right so don't all combination locks[/sarcasm]
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 6 Aug 2010 17:08

tjweaver84 wrote:[sarcasm]But Confederate all my Master combo locks start to the right so don't all combination locks[/sarcasm]


Master=/=safe, lol.

Really, the only combination locks that are going to turn to the right first are the 4 wheel variants; 2 wheel variants as well if you want to be technical. Off the top of my head I can think of... Mosler 5H, Diebold 161, and the S&G 6500. I had to really rack my brain for those.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby lockinabox » 6 Aug 2010 17:49

Confederate wrote:The majority, I'd estimate 85%, of the time you turn to the left -end of story.


Exactly. I would go even higher and say that 95% of 3 wheel safe locks turn to the left. There are some older locks that turn to the right, but pretty much all modern safe locks turn to the left.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Dak » 6 Aug 2010 19:57

Confederate wrote:
Dak wrote:
Confederate wrote:
Hopefully you meant counter-clockwise.


???

on all sorts of combination dial locks ive ever encountered you turn the dial clockwise a few times before entering a possible combination.


Sigh, I hate being drawn into these debates. I'm sure you don't remember the models, huh? Some locks dial clockwise, but most are counter-clockwise. Odds are in favor of the latter. Sargent and Greenleaf require opening turns to the left, or counter clockwise, as does LaGard. Do you see why I hate these debates? I could spend hours citing hundreds of mechanical combination locks that require the intial turn to the left. I'm not going to bother.

The majority, I'd estimate 85%, of the time you turn to the left -end of story.

My apologies. I wasnt trying to spark a debate. Anything with a combination dial ive encountered just spins clockwise. my bad. safes arent my area.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby CaptHook » 8 Aug 2010 16:23

"10 Step Method for Opening Safes"
1. Find an opening in the wall of sufficient size for the safe. (hopefully at least 3 stories high)
2. Get a large appliance dolly under the safe.
3. Wheel the safe to the opening.
4. Push the safe through the opening in the wall.(trade name for these openings are windows)
5. Consider going to hospital for the hernia you just received.
6. Run downstairs to see what happened to the safe.
7. Jump up and down screaming because nothing happened to the safe, just the car it landed on.
8. Call a locksmith.
9. Go back upstairs and watch "Clockwork Orange" while waiting on the smith to arrive.
10. Jump up and down screaming when you find out there is nothing in the safe.
Hope this helps
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Generally_Nice » 8 Aug 2010 18:09

CaptHook wrote:"10 Step Method for Opening Safes"
1. Find an opening in the wall of sufficient size for the safe. (hopefully at least 3 stories high)
2. Get a large appliance dolly under the safe.
3. Wheel the safe to the opening.
4. Push the safe through the opening in the wall.(trade name for these openings are windows)
5. Consider going to hospital for the hernia you just received.
6. Run downstairs to see what happened to the safe.
7. Jump up and down screaming because nothing happened to the safe, just the car it landed on.
8. Call a locksmith.
9. Go back upstairs and watch "Clockwork Orange" while waiting on the smith to arrive.
10. Jump up and down screaming when you find out there is nothing in the safe.
Hope this helps
Chuck


Yearp, that would do it maybe...

To the asker, I'm guessing from your question you want the safe open so you can use it right? If not there are a number of ways that will get it open but will destroy it.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby tjweaver84 » 8 Aug 2010 20:18

Generally_nice there are ways to open the safe varying on complexity depending on the type of safe but we don't want to give criminals a one stop shop on breaking into safes so we keep discussions of opening them in the advanced section. Safes I would call someone especially if it is a decent safe with the glass plates which if broken will perma-lock all the bolts.
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Re: Need my own safe picked!!!

Postby Generally_Nice » 8 Aug 2010 20:27

Agreed with that, that's why I'm keeping it stum ;-) My old RAF training officer back in my time as a cadet was a former safe-breaker for the Army in NI, we had a dull day once so he taught a number of methods that I won't divulge here. Mad guy but good to know...
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