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How to reinforce door frame?

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Re: How to reinforce door frame?

Postby globallockytoo » 12 Mar 2009 5:24

Being in the fire department, I would think you would choose your words more carefully.

Windows are indeed a weakness, but the building code and life safety codes are the primary culprits because the influence of fire departments have made it so that people are not allowed to install double cylinder deadbolts to their primary entrances.

You comment on weaknesses, but you dont realize that the weakness is in the politics, rather than the products.
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Re: How to reinforce door frame?

Postby Violent_Vegetable » 12 Mar 2009 7:53

globallockytoo wrote:people are not allowed to install double cylinder deadbolts to their primary entrances.


You must have different rules/codes in the states then, double cylinder deadbolts are allowed (but not encouraged) here in most of Canada.

globallockytoo wrote:If the frame is reinforced using especially designed products to thwart kick ins, then you WILL NOT KICK IN THE DOOR!


I don't know where you're getting that... I never said a properly protected door could be kicked in... I said that many doors I see with fancy locks often have weak links in their security setup allowing them to be easily kicked in.

Fact is I fully agree with you that a properly protected door and frame cannot be kicked in. I live in a Condo and my own door would need to be resQsawed or destroyed to get in (I reinforced my door frame with angle iron and long bolts at the striker and hinges, and reinforced the lock area of the door with a custom stainless overlay).
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Re: How to reinforce door frame?

Postby globallockytoo » 12 Mar 2009 8:19

Double cylinder locks are allowed here too. Just not on PRIMARY entrances. I am pretty sure Canada observes the same laws.

The latest accepted code is taken from the 2006 International Building Code. Section D.
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Re: How to reinforce door frame?

Postby freakparade3 » 15 Mar 2009 11:14

OK boys, time out here. This is going nowhere and not helping the OP with his question. Any more of this bickering and I am going to lock what could have been a great thread.

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Re: How to reinforce door frame?

Postby raimundo » 27 Mar 2009 10:39

I read Raymonds post and its interesting how he would reinforce the strike plate.
Commecial lock hardward comes with short screws for the strike plate, and the door frame is usually about a half inch or three fifths inch, and sometimes in modern cheap construction this is even done with woodchip board with a fake woodgrain shelfpaper on it.
behind this there is a space, maybe half an inch, where the finish carpenters fitted the door frame to the rough carpenters work.
The framing around a door is typically made of doubled twobyfours to hold the header/lintel and keep to the building codes.
I have often reinforced strike plates simply by using long sheetrock screws, these are thin enough to fit perfectly in the strike plates holes and yet they can be as long as six inches and this will grip through the door frame and into, almost through the double twobyfours,
If someone knows the bilding codes, tell me if those sheet metal studs are actually used nowadays on door frames? If that is the case, just chain a bulldog in front of the door and hope thats enough.
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Re: How to reinforce door frame?

Postby jennypatel » 25 Aug 2010 1:58

First of all you must check all the screws, deadbolts, strike plates and dead strike plates in the security door and if you find any of the above hardware parts unsecured and then the take the appropriate action to replace it.
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