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Chubb conquest

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

Chubb conquest

Postby toomush2drink » 11 Sep 2004 10:56

Anyone ever tackled a chubb conquest ? Just had one to deal with and only got it off with an angle grinder. Picking proved a challenge and i could only set the spools with a pick gun but couldnt pick it completely and time was against me :cry: . It had a removable core so tried drilling it but to no avail as it has anti drill protection and also wouldnt shim. Thankfully i had access to power for the trusty angle grinder. http://www.chubblocks.co.uk/howto_outbuildings3.html
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Postby randmguy » 11 Sep 2004 11:49

I'm going to ask because it seems like so many of us overlook this angle of attack...Was there a reason that you couldn't cut the staple of the hasp. I see a lot of locksmiths that spend valuable time trying to grind or drill expensive high security padlocks. You get it open and wind up with a customer that thinks, "I could have ruined the lock myself why did I just waste the money on a locksmith and now I have to buy a new lock."

I don't know what folks are like outside the US but all too often I find high dollar locks hanging off $2 (or cheaper) hasps. If I can cut the hasp I generally have an easy sale on a better quality hasp and I offer the customer a loaner padlock so I can take their lock home and either pick it or impression it at my leisure. I usually only charge them a service call and the cost of impressioning a key for calls like this.

If they've actually got a quality hasp you've just found out why its good to have more than one entry method in your bag.

Impressioning, Bump Keys and jigglers are all good things to try before you reach for the power tools if you can't pick it open. I'm as guilty as any of us of getting focused on one method and being frustrated when it doesn't work. Remember the job is opening the lock, you don't always have to pick it. :D
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Postby toomush2drink » 11 Sep 2004 12:18

I would have loved to have cut the hasp as it would have been easier but i didnt have a replacement as i was told it was just a lock replacement job, nobody mentioned anything about a lockout till i arrived. Also it was at night so i couldnt even go out and get another which would have been a better option. Why they wanted the locks changed then is beyond me when it could have quite easily have been done the next day, but they are the customer so they get what they want.
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Cubb Conquest Padlock

Postby Chris B » 11 Sep 2004 13:54

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Postby toomush2drink » 11 Sep 2004 14:06

Thanks for the response chris, it was the 6 pin closed shackle version, as i mentioned before i could get it picked onto the spools but couldnt get them to set properly afterwards. Are they all spools or just a few ?

Its so much harder on the "job" than the "bench" and the time pressure didnt help as i had a lot of other jobs on the site to attend to and the rain....... It was a sub contracted job as well so not even full pay for it.

It looks like i need one at home to play with now to get rid of the challenge its thrown at me as i dont want another laughing at me :wink:
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Postby Chris B » 11 Sep 2004 14:38

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Postby toomush2drink » 11 Sep 2004 16:11

Yes the cost of it did put me off the angle grinder thats why i tackled the removable core after picking wouldnt work. Looks like i have to get my impressioning skills up to scratch as its not something ive worked on much.
If you dont mind me asking how long do you think it would have taken a man of your caliber and experience to impression/pick it ?
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Postby Chris B » 11 Sep 2004 17:01

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Postby toomush2drink » 12 Sep 2004 10:16

Thanks for the tip chris didnt think to do that, so obvious really but not when the presure is on.
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