Omega 2 lock: Lever + Tubular (from Poland)

[alfabravo]

hi. i've get an interesting key from a lady at a scrap yard when looking for some tubes, rods, spokes etc. as far as i can say lock mechanism uses tubular,warded and lever lock principles. it's a pity that i don't have the lock... i bet it was used for a safe or some high security application something like 30 yrs ago. what's interesting from far away it looks like it is made out of plastic but it's some kind of alloy i think. anyway hoping that maybe some of you have similar lock and can share with some brand name or at least picture of the lock itself.



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(post title changed as requested. mh)

[alfabravo]

ok. i've found the lock key belongs to. it's called omega 2 and it's not a safe look but police certified(some higher security) door lock.

here is the picture of the lock itself

[alfabravo]

firstly to mods, please move the topic to right place, and change the subject to omega combined lock or whatever.

i've recently bought one omega lock which is already known for all interested in the topic. lock itself looks like this(unscrewed cover, removed latch):



latch:



levers and a key:



tubular mechanism(5 pins) with ward. when we press key towards the lock we can turn it so it will catch all levers. whats more it can be stopped in 6 positions(when removed before turning whole circular manner):





ok. i have two ideas to pick the lock. what are yours? or should i firstly write down mine?

[Solomon]

That looks pretty insane! To pick one you'd need a type of curtain pick with a tip similar to a tubular pick for impressioning the pins. I wonder if anyone has ever made one... very interesting find, thanks for sharing

[alfabravo]

one of my thoughts about picking this lock was similiar to yours. making impressioning device for tubular lock and then picking levers when curtain'll rotate to one click before 12 o'clock (about 2o'clock position), because there is limited space if it will be turned straight up.

second one was to just focus on levers, because tubular mechanism doesn't have any particular application for moving latch. it's just an obstruction for picks, and musn't be picked to open the lock. i havn't any idea if it is doable, but will try and if succeeds you'll get some info here. although very limited space for that and hard to do. must bend wires very precisely.

[Solomon]

Since I don't have the lock in front of me it's hard to tell, but with normal curtain locks it's the curtain itself which actually throws the bolt... so I dunno if there'd be any way to do it without rotating the curtain. Getting picks at the levers without rotating it would be a hell of a task aswell but if you come up with anything please share, would be very interesting to see

[alfabravo]

curtain doesn't throw the bolt actually so in theory it's possible to just move on to levers without paying much attention to curtain.

i'll be in touch.

[unlisted]

where did you find this lock and how much are they to purchase?

[alfabravo]

it's origin is in Poland. there are two versions of it. one is with an alarm which goes off when you try to manipulate the lock mechanism(don't know how it works). other one i bought without alarm in used condition for 10$ with one key. new one costs around 50$.

[unlisted]

wow, keep me in mind if you ever see another used one please.

[alfabravo]

if i'll get one in my sight i'll contact you ASAP.

[stratmando]

I have a Key that is a Tubular Key with a Tumbler key in the center, and after seeing this, I Think It would be nice to Make Lock that was Tubular, Tumbler, and Lever, and Might as well throw in 4? sliders between the Tubular tumblers? Would ahve to be Tough to Pick.
Oh yeah, dont forget the Beveled pins for the Sidebar.
If Medeco made that, would it be the M5?

[Rickthepick]

Thats a bit of an oddball, but i reckon not as complex as it looks to pick.

The dimensions look similar to the gerda locks

I wonder what the doors are like in poland

[alfabravo]

i've been week ago in UK, so can tell you that they look DIFFERENT and i mean it. will post photo for you soon when i have spare 5 minutes:)