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4th pin too long for me to set the 5th pin?!

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4th pin too long for me to set the 5th pin?!

Postby alexthem » 9 Sep 2010 11:33

ok i purchased a practice lock ( the one that shows you what is hapening to the pins) and i have picked it mny times. the first binding pin is the 2nd, then the 4th and then the 5th. the problem is that when i set the 4th(2nd binding pin) then i must set the 5th pin of the lock. i am using he standard hook pick btw. however it is impossible to push the 5th up enough for it to bind without the 4th bottom pin moving up to the outer lock so it keeps me from continuing. however with some fidgeting around i got to set the 5 th pin(3rd binding pin) , unsetting the 4th pin(2nd binding pin) and releasing a bit of tension the 4th bottom pin falls back in to the inner plug and sets itself. it is already hard enough to get it right on the practice lock i cant imagine my self doing it on normal lock. how can i overcome this problem. i tried using the bigger hook pick but it doesnt fit in the plug.
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Re: 4th pin too long for me to set the 5th pin?!

Postby Rickthepick » 10 Sep 2010 2:46

This is what makes some locks almost impossible to pick.
Even the sloppiest make of lock can be tough with the right bitting.
Have you tried overlifting the pins to start?
Sometimes this can give you a head start, us the back of your pick and push all pins up maintaining light tension. sometimes this can leave the awkward pin above the sheer line (and hopefully a few more)
U can also apply the same method with rakes and other shapes of pick so that the pins bind differently as you lower the pins together.
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Re: 4th pin too long for me to set the 5th pin?!

Postby PlentyLocksmiths » 8 Oct 2010 5:23

A little tip. Turn in the opposite direction. If your turnbar is turning the barrel clockwise, then pick it anticlockwise. This will in fact change the picking sequence. On some locks this isn't possible, ie padlocks. But if you do pick it in the wrong direction, you can use a plug spinner.

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