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Monserrate vs. Bogota

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby BypassThis » 19 Oct 2009 23:17

Discuss.
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Re: Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby raimundo » 20 Oct 2009 8:03

Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Re: Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby BypassThis » 20 Oct 2009 9:32

Thanks Raimundo, the man behind all of this hype :lol:

I'm thinking about buying one of these sets. I'm definitely a beginner to locksport, reccomendations?
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Re: Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby Solomon » 20 Oct 2009 12:12

BypassThis wrote:Thanks Raimundo, the man behind all of this hype :lol:

I'm thinking about buying one of these sets. I'm definitely a beginner to locksport, reccomendations?

I have one... get a half diamond and a couple of hooks aswell. Not all locks can be jiggled open, not even with these fine tools. :mrgreen:
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Re: Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby dmux » 20 Oct 2009 15:15

hahah i love rai's post!

its all said in the blog. they are just an addition to the bogota army that fills in the gaps that the other tools can't!
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Re: Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby CptedIV » 22 Oct 2009 0:16

Whats monserrate?
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Re: Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby CptedIV » 22 Oct 2009 0:22

Nevermind.... I gotta start looking around more before posting...
Sorry. :oops:
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Re: Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby dktf » 12 Oct 2010 18:31

Well, I own both sets (great thanks to Rai) and here are my impressions on them.

The bogota (standard) is great as a jiggler tool..sort of like you're rocking back and forth until the lock opens. It is crucial that you use light tension when jiggling as I've found that this combination between the tension and the jiggling works effective on 90% of the locks I've tried.

Although the Monserrate is supposed to work in a similar way towards the bogota (the jiggling motion), I've been using it mostly as a rake tool as opposed to the conventional jiggling that everyone seems to do with Rai's picks. When I say that I "rake" the lock with the monserrate(s) respectively, I do not mean that I'm abusing them (putting the pick at the back of the lock and rapidly moving forward like a knife wielding maniac). In any sense, it is great if you slowly rake forward creating little circles and using the second monserrate pick with pulsating tension. This combination for me seems to work and it'll generally take less than 30 seconds for a lock to open. Of course, this is completely up to the user to choose whether or not jiggling with a monserrate or bogota pick compared to raking is beneficial for them. There is no 'correct' way to use these picks but as long as you're not being heavy-handed on them, they should last you a lifetime.

Happy Picking!
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Re: Monserrate vs. Bogota

Postby JK_the_CJer » 13 Oct 2010 2:40

Hmm, every usage of the word 'monserrate' on that page is misspelled. Good thing I noticed and stealthily fixed it before anyone noticed.
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