Rytan RYPK-32, Type 5

[ChonkyTonks]

Some of you may have seen my post regarding Rytan Distributors last week. I noted in said post that I had found a distributor who sells Rytan picks. I just wanted to post a couple of pics of the set and give you some of my thoughts about the set.

Picks in their respective case:



Picks laid out:

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You will notice that there are some ancillary tools in there, as well. I have three of my favorite Peterson picks, as well as four of the MLPX (10,11,12,14) blue handle picks from Rytan.

The picks, themselves, are vastly different from the Peterson picks I have. These feel lighter than air in your hand and make you wonder whether you are applying too much pressure when you use them. However, they are tough picks and really translate what is happening in the lock through the handle. These feel like precision tools that necessitate a gentle touch, but really add to the experience when you are attempting to SPP a lock.

As you can see, it also comes with a number of extractors (REZ-2, REZ-7), two adjustable tweezer tension wrenches (RSTW-3), combo picks (RP-14, RP-15) and likely more tension wrenches than I will ever need (RTEN-7/9 "U", RTR-11 to RTR-14).

The combo picks are difficult to hold since there is not a lot of real estate in the handle. I will modify these this weekend with some custom materials to make them easier to grip as they are decent picks. They are a little thinner than I would like, but they will have their use in some of the locks I have.

I dig the "U" wrenches, but really can only use them with some of the bigger key ways. The tweezers have not been used yet.

The price for the set + the mlpx picks (with shipping) came to $83. Not a terrible price, certainly, and I am definitely happy with the set.

That is all for now.

-ChonkyTonks

[Solomon]

I would say $83 IS a terrible price, considering the amount of "once in a blue moon" picks in there. So many different variations of ball and snake rakes, I've no idea why you'd need more than one of any of those. I mean come on... the snakes are almost all identical aswell, this takes the idea of filler picks to the extreme. There are 2 of each double ended pick aswell.

If they're gonna make a set with tons of rakes they may as well put a bit of real variety in there, stuff you might actually use. You need ONE snake rake, 2 at most... and ball rakes, seriously, I've never found a use for one of those that a half diamond couldn't do better. Double ball, triple ball, double half ball... what were they even thinking?

For someone who already owns petersons I'd imagine you know better than to buy a set like this, what made you do it? It can't just be curiosity, $83 is a lot to pay for the amount of stuff you're actually gonna get any use out of. And what's the deal with the handles all being half melted?

[ChonkyTonks]

I would say $83 IS a terrible price, considering the amount of "once in a blue moon" picks in there. So many different variations of ball and snake rakes, I've no idea why you'd need more than one of any of those. I mean come on... the snakes are almost all identical aswell, this takes the idea of filler picks to the extreme. There are 2 of each double ended pick aswell.

If they're gonna make a set with tons of rakes they may as well put a bit of real variety in there, stuff you might actually use. You need ONE snake rake, 2 at most... and ball rakes, seriously, I've never found a use for one of those that a half diamond couldn't do better. Double ball, triple ball, double half ball... what were they even thinking?

For someone who already owns petersons I'd imagine you know better than to buy a set like this, what made you do it? It can't just be curiosity, $83 is a lot to pay for the amount of stuff you're actually gonna get any use out of. And what's the deal with the handles all being half melted?

I can appreciate your position, especially with regard to the ball picks as I very rarely have a need for those, but the bottom line here is that I am purely a hobbyist when it comes to picking. I love to pick with all types of picks (yes, even ball picks when the blue moon has risen) because it gives me a better idea of which pick to use with which type of lock. I am a very methodical person and a set like this gives me the opportunity to hone my skills and work on solutions with picks I would normally not use. It helps to get me out of a rut and keeps my interest level up.

That being said, however, I do concur that there is more here than I will likely ever use. Up to now, I have not used any of the ball picks (save for the half-double), nor the extractors. If I were in the locksmith trade, I would simply purchase individual picks that I needed. But, again, being that I am a hobbyist, I like like to test my mettle by using tools that I would not normally.

As for the handles looking "melted", that is just a visual swirl in the plastic from the manufacturing process. They are not *actually* melted.

[thelockpickkid]

Those double ended picks are actually quite alright once you get the hang of them, they are perfect for tight keyways, (the hook diamond combo) I have one, and still use it on occasion. As for the ball picks, they work pretty well on wafer locks and auto locks. I use a variety of picks for those and the ball is no exception.

[ChonkyTonks]

Those double ended picks are actually quite alright once you get the hang of them, they are perfect for tight keyways, (the hook diamond combo) I have one, and still use it on occasion. As for the ball picks, they work pretty well on wafer locks and auto locks. I use a variety of picks for those and the ball is no exception.

I am trying different materials to make a better grip for the double-ended picks since they are so cumbersome to hold, as is.

[Isepic]

I used heat-shrink tubing on my LAB double-ended picks. Works quite well.

[LockNewbie21]

I bought an identical looking set from some "Off-the Docks" oriental site for like 20$ shipped. However, this seems to be beter quality. I only leave that remark due to the resemblence of the handels.


I just can't see to many real work usages with some of those tool's. For instance the triple ball pick... well any ball pick in general are only useful in some shoddy, low-tollerance wafer mechs. I think having a "Triple ball pick" just adds insult to injury when even a half ball pick is to much.

The rakes however seem legit, as raking in the real world seems to be the only means of NDE used, if any at, all before just drilling the sheer and throwing in a new ILCO replacement cylinder.


I wouldn't buy it, however, I must say it's a sharp looking set. I hope it brings you some really nice sessions and certainly could inspire some neat conversations.


-LN21

[raimundo]

people seem to think half ball picks are good for something in wafer locks, but in fact, this probably means that your halfdiamond pick is one of those useless ones with barely a mm or so of pick tip and a thick pickshaft that will fill up the keyway.
the fact is that any lock so bad as to be suceptible to a halfball pick can be easily picked and faster with a good halfdiamond pick.
but if you only use commercial picks designed to be sold to the heavy handed public, with thick shafts for better prying, and dimminished pick tips to avoid getting them stuck in the depths of a keyway, you are lucky they make locks bad enough to be picked by this kind of thing.

in any case, sand your picks