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Road Trip Lock Sightings

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Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby MacGnG1 » 8 Nov 2010 19:15

I figured we should have a thread to share interesting locks we've seen on road trips!

I was on a road trip to see some friends in Vermont last week and I spotted this lock at a rest stop bathroom on the way up:
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Looks like the other Medeco KeyMarks i've seen before

I saw this one sunday at a local metro station ticketing machine:
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I know this is a CyberLock from Rickthepick's post but the medeco piece looks like a vending machine T handle.

Any more info??? Thanks guys :)
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby MacGyver101 » 8 Nov 2010 21:03

MacGnG1 wrote:I know this is a CyberLock from Rickthepick's post but the medeco piece looks like a vending machine T handle.

Huh... that is strange. On first glance, I guessed that was actually a Medeco Nexgen XT... but, after staring at a bunch of keyway photos, you're right: it looks like a CyberLock in a Medeco T-handle. Weird. :D
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby sfi72 » 8 Nov 2010 21:26

No, i think that is a medeco nexgen in there. though i wasnt aware they were producing the XT in anything other than SFIC at the moment, it must be an XT because the original nexgen cylinder looks very different than that one.
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby MacGnG1 » 8 Nov 2010 22:39

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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby MacGyver101 » 9 Nov 2010 0:25

A Nextgen XT makes sense, given the Medeco T-handle... but the photo looks much more like a Cyberlock to me? The XT has a third contact, and a much more pronounced cut-out (at 12 o'clock in MacGnG's photo) for the blade-like protrusion on the key.

Sorry, MacGnG... you'd intended this to be a "locks we've seen in use" thread. :lol: Here's the worst example of an installed Mul-T-Lock that I've ever seen (almost as bad as the hastily-taken photo as I was walking past: my apologies!)

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That's the door to the wine cellar in the "360" restaurant in the CN Tower. I'm not entirely sure, but I think that Euro cylinder may not quite be installed to spec. :lol:
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby JK_the_CJer » 9 Nov 2010 6:44

Keeping with this locks-on-a-roadtrip theme, here are pics of some of the locks (and other physsec things) I saw in Africa:

http://www.theamazingking.com/images/africa/afrisec.html
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby MacGnG1 » 9 Nov 2010 16:28

MacGyver101: LOL its okay.

JK's got locks all over africa!

anyone else seen anything cool lately??
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby Solomon » 9 Nov 2010 22:50

I brought my camera out a couple of times a few months back, and snapped some cool stuff from around the city. Pics are pretty big so I'll just link em :mrgreen:

Abloy 241

ASSA Ruko 2

Mul-T-Lock (unsure which)

Chubb Cruiser

Old lever padlock, think it's a Squire

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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby Rickthepick » 10 Nov 2010 3:23

Any more info??? Thanks guys


Videx make replacement cores for other locks so they have just scrapped the medeco in favor of that. The worker responsible for filling the vending machine is probably limited to one key use at a certain time of day so that he doesnt come back later to empty it. :lol:
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby Evan » 10 Nov 2010 13:44

Rickthepick wrote:Videx make replacement cores for other locks so they have just scrapped the medeco in favor of that. The worker responsible for filling the vending machine is probably limited to one key use at a certain time of day so that he doesnt come back later to empty it. :lol:



That is doubtful... A transportation authority would have strict cash handling and control policies for the revenue collection agents -- plural -- who would empty the fare collection machines on a given route...

In the olden days when all of the fare payments were in cash or coin, these revenue collection crews were escorted by a team of armed guards... Now a lot less cash changes hands as many such machines allow for bulk payment of several fares on a credit card to recharge your transit pass...

We have no information on the internal configuration of the fare collection machine in question, the actual cash collection cartridges might be locked and could only be opened by technicians in the central cash counting room located back at the authority offices, the field technicians only swapping out the full cartridges with empty ones and scanning bar codes on both the cartridge and machine to document the circulation of the cartridges for accounting purposes and chain of custody...

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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby MacGnG1 » 10 Nov 2010 22:46

Evan wrote:That is doubtful... A transportation authority would have strict cash handling and control policies for the revenue collection agents


that is why cyberlocks can do this...

Rickthepick wrote:The worker responsible for filling the vending machine is probably limited to one key use at a certain time of day so that he doesnt come back later to empty it. :lol:


Videx actually makes custom cores (pix on their site), so it was probably a custom job for the whole transit system (haven't checked out any of the other machines). Also machines only have cash, no credit, and a LOT of change.

its probably a combination of many things. either way still very cool lock!
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby Evan » 11 Nov 2010 12:31

MacGnG1 wrote:
Evan wrote:That is doubtful... A transportation authority would have strict cash handling and control policies for the revenue collection agents


that is why cyberlocks can do this...

Rickthepick wrote:The worker responsible for filling the vending machine is probably limited to one key use at a certain time of day so that he doesnt come back later to empty it. :lol:


Videx actually makes custom cores (pix on their site), so it was probably a custom job for the whole transit system (haven't checked out any of the other machines). Also machines only have cash, no credit, and a LOT of change.

its probably a combination of many things. either way still very cool lock!


I completely understood Rickthepick's statement...

Such revenue collection machines on a transit system are NEVER emptied by one person and there is generally an armed transit police officer present to reduce the temptation for criminals to attempt an armed robbery of the revenue collection agents...

Restricting the locks to only be opened at certain times of day or once a day is foolish -- it doesn't take into account the randomness of the outside world out on the streets above or below the transit system...

Even when those locks are used on vending machine routes they are not that restrictive because the vending route service person has to open up the machine to determine what items and how many of each need to be restocked in a given machine... Again the randomness of traffic on the roads or some kind of minor repairs at previous route stops could adversely impact the ability of the route to be serviced if the locks were as rigidly time restricted as proposed...

Under your theorized system of the keys only being allowed to be used once at a specific time range that would mean the vending machine(s) at each location would need to be left unlocked while the route technician goes out to the truck to obtain the required items to restock the machines... I have never seen that happen before, ever, have you ?

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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby MacGnG1 » 11 Nov 2010 13:22

Solomon wrote:I brought my camera out a couple of times a few months back, and snapped some cool stuff from around the city. Pics are pretty big so I'll just link em :mrgreen:


COOL STUFF!!! i think someone is selling a ruko2 on ebay
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby EmCee » 12 Nov 2010 5:11

MacGyver101 wrote:I'm not entirely sure, but I think that Euro cylinder may not quite be installed to spec.

It's what we call a coat-hanger multi-function installation. It's so the wine waiters have somewhere handy to hang a fleece jacket ready to slip on when they enter the cellar.
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Re: Road Trip Lock Sightings

Postby MacGyver101 » 14 Aug 2011 10:03

I was passing through the Vancouver airport earlier today, and noticed a bunch of workers coming and going through one of the security doors without stopping... a quick look at the lock showed why. :lol: oops...

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