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uk picks

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

uk picks

Postby jbubbubs » 13 Dec 2010 14:23

Hi i used to visit here a long time ago. I know some people are a bit skeptical about helping out new people.

The last time i came here i posted about the squire lock and i manged to pick it using the hook shaped pick
iv also managed to pick my ex front door lock which i used to use before i had my new yale fitted.
i managed a disc shaped lock and quiet a few other pin tumbler locks.

I introduced my friend to lock picking he is in his 60,s now and he can a few locks.

He got a set of rake keys last week and he is trying to get me to get some but i am thinking it kind of defeats the purpose of lock picking. Plus i dont think they are very good.

I guess my advice is that i am looking for some new type of lock to pick and some different tools and i wondered whats the next step up from pin tubular locks.

Iv seens some nice south0rd double sided picks also seen tubular picks and then there are shims but again i dont think they are picks just bypass and not much fun.

also seen something called a Shovit Tool but it does not say what its use it. i would think again its a bypass tool and me i am just interested in picking new locks not bypassing because i feel its cheating
and defeats the purpose of lock picking.
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Re: uk picks

Postby Squelchtone » 13 Dec 2010 15:51

jbubbubs wrote:Hi i used to visit here a long time ago. I know some people are a bit skeptical about helping out new people.

The last time i came here i posted about the squire lock and i manged to pick it using the hook shaped pick
iv also managed to pick my ex front door lock which i used to use before i had my new yale fitted.
i managed a disc shaped lock and quiet a few other pin tumbler locks.

I introduced my friend to lock picking he is in his 60,s now and he can a few locks.

He got a set of rake keys last week and he is trying to get me to get some but i am thinking it kind of defeats the purpose of lock picking. Plus i dont think they are very good.

I guess my advice is that i am looking for some new type of lock to pick and some different tools and i wondered whats the next step up from pin tubular locks.

Iv seens some nice south0rd double sided picks also seen tubular picks and then there are shims but again i dont think they are picks just bypass and not much fun.

also seen something called a Shovit Tool but it does not say what its use it. i would think again its a bypass tool and me i am just interested in picking new locks not bypassing because i feel its cheating
and defeats the purpose of lock picking.


I think you should move up to some high security pin tumbler locks, perhaps a 7 pin Yale with mushroom or spool security pins for added difficulty, or you can try to pick a Medeco.

Glad to see you wanting to actually pick, not just use tools to defeat a lock, because you're right it is like cheating.

The Shovit tool is shaped like an old automotive Slim Jim, but is shorter and meant to slip a spring loaded latch, like using a credit card. This is all we should be saying and nothing more, as we do not encourage bypass tools, since this site is more for hobby picking than professional locksmithing techniques, and discussion of bypass is not allowed.

if you go to UKbumpkeys or similiar sites, you can purchase a nice set of Southord euro style slim line picks and have lots of fun with better made pin tumbler locks. 6 or 7 pin is always harder than a normal 5 pin lock, and pin tumbler is always harder than a wafer lock. Lever locks like Squire or ERA as you probably know require wires or 2 in 1 tools and are in a league of their own when it comes to difficulty.

you can also purchase euro profile or rim or mortise cylinders on ebay for a fiver or a little more.

Cheers,
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Re: uk picks

Postby jbubbubs » 14 Dec 2010 16:04

ANy idea how you pick these locks?

[url]http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9276743&fh_location=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C{9372016}/categories%3C{9372049}/categories%3C{9372273}/categories%3C{9392102}/specificationsProductType=door_locks/specificationsSpecificProductType=sashlocks&tmcampid=4&tmad=c&ecamp=cse_go&CAWELAID=266934443[/url]

Yale 2 lever mortice locks
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Re: uk picks

Postby Solomon » 14 Dec 2010 16:12

jbubbubs wrote:ANy idea how you pick these locks?

[url]http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9276743&fh_location=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C{9372016}/categories%3C{9372049}/categories%3C{9372273}/categories%3C{9392102}/specificationsProductType=door_locks/specificationsSpecificProductType=sashlocks&tmcampid=4&tmad=c&ecamp=cse_go&CAWELAID=266934443[/url]

Yale 2 lever mortice locks

You need 2 L-shaped wires, one for tensioning the bolt and one for lifting the levers. Principles of picking are the same, feel for binding levers and lift till set... personally I find them much harder than pin tumblers although a 2 or 3 lever would be easy enough.
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Re: uk picks

Postby jbubbubs » 14 Dec 2010 16:27

Solomon wrote:
jbubbubs wrote:ANy idea how you pick these locks?

[url]http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=9276743&fh_location=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C{9372016}/categories%3C{9372049}/categories%3C{9372273}/categories%3C{9392102}/specificationsProductType=door_locks/specificationsSpecificProductType=sashlocks&tmcampid=4&tmad=c&ecamp=cse_go&CAWELAID=266934443[/url]

Yale 2 lever mortice locks

You need 2 L-shaped wires, one for tensioning the bolt and one for lifting the levers. Principles of picking are the same, feel for binding levers and lift till set... personally I find them much harder than pin tumblers although a 2 or 3 lever would be easy enough.


where can you find cheap picks for these? or would piano wire do ?
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Re: uk picks

Postby Solomon » 14 Dec 2010 16:50

Yeah piano wire is fine, I think about 16swg is your best bet. You can get 2-in-1 picks, but you'd need different ones for each gauge.
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Re: uk picks

Postby jbubbubs » 15 Dec 2010 13:00

I did a lot of thinking today and i decided to get a 22 piece south0rd pick set which comes with a free book.

I figured most lots apart from the mortice can be picked with them and if i got the rake/snake keys like my friend wanted me to then well it would defeat the purpose of picking.

Iv not picked locks for a while but i still kept all my locks and i am still using the jack knife but its a bit worse for ware now.

I was watching the tv show leverage and in quiet a few episodes the girl picks locks with south0rd set and it just reminded my how i used to enjoy sitting down listening to the tv trying to pick each lock.
iv managed to do the squire and can do it every time not and a disc shaped lock i want to pick my friends new yale when i see him he brought a yale with security pins to test his rake keys on

but he said he would lend it to me so i can try and pick it. the 22 piece set cost me £60 with next day delivery and a free zip up case and book called easy pickings.

its the slimline euro set. I always think one day i will lock myself out of the house again like i did 2 years ago "i stepped outside to empty the trash and the wind blew the door shut"

had to sit out side for several hours until some one came home with the keys ha ha
good times. but next time i can maybe pick it myself with my jackknife
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Re: uk picks

Postby exspook » 25 Dec 2010 18:05

You should check voucher codes as they had a offer with 33 percent discount inc postage
I always use the outlet section as they are still the same quality but cheaper
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