weiser locks

[SeCToR9]

Its a deadbolt. also I had them repined with spools. I meant to say that but theres no edit button.

[Anziano Jackson]

Weisers seem pretty easy and not very precision cut. I have only used a snake pick on it and almost always get it. I need to do more than. I was going home from school and my mom called and told me to bring my picks because the neighbor locked herself and twin babies outside. I couldn't get it for a bit, but I loosened up and it opened right up. The pin that always seems to be temermental is the 3rd or 4th. I rake it and feel which one is still pushing down on the pick and focus on that one

[TAMUmpower]

Usually when I come across a deadbolt, because of the bolt force against the lock, it is much easier to pick it the opposite way and just use a plug spinner.

As for Weiser, I find them much harder than a 10 sec quickset. Not impossible though, it just takes more concentration. A Quickset deadbolt can be opened with just about anything wiggling around in the keyway.

[devnill]

i like my weiser alot more than kwickset. they are easy to pin, and are fairly durable. It is pretty easy however, even with alot of securety pins. Try a schlage if you are looking for the next step up.

[picksmith]

The weiser powerbolt that the poster spoke of is now manufactured by kwikset. You do need to remmeber that you are turning the motor and the deadbolt when picking.

http://www.kwikset.com/Products/default ... rbolt1000/

[shaothegreat]

Sorry to revive this decayed, crusty thread, but I just installed two Weiser entry knobs on my front and back door and these knobs most DEFINITELY contain security pins. The first pin in each cylinder is obviously heavily serrated and after some SPP, I suspect there may be 2 spools or spool hybrids somewhere in the middle. These knobs are almost impossible to rake, even though the keying is somewhat even. There is very little tactile response on the springs. I think Weiser stepped their game up.

[thelockpickkid]

Are you in Canada by chance? We don't see alot of Weisers here, but they are fully made by Kwikset, but the Weiser name was left in Canada, where we still have the Kwikset name, they actually have Weiser Smart Key in Canada I here. The word Kwikset should tell you the quality of these Weisers.

[anthrax28]

seems secure, just missed the biometric scan

[shaothegreat]

Are you in Canada by chance? We don't see alot of Weisers here, but they are fully made by Kwikset, but the Weiser name was left in Canada, where we still have the Kwikset name, they actually have Weiser Smart Key in Canada I here. The word Kwikset should tell you the quality of these Weisers.

Nope... Just cheap $30 knobs... Kwikset and Schlage are a joke to me, as are any other Weiser knob or deadbolt I've encountered, but these are obviously different. Security pins in a cheap knob? I'm pretty impressed. Of course... someone could always bump it, I'm sure. But picking it would probably cause enough noise and take enough time for me to grab my 870 and scare them off.

[SavhD]

We see Weiser locks quite frequently at out shop. I prolly open about 10-20 of them a week... What I've noticed is that the EXACT same thing that can make them easy to pick, can also make them hard to pick... Namely quality... or more accurately, LACK of it.

Usually an un mounted Weiser is a breeze to pick, a MOUNTED Weiser, however (especially knobsets), usually jiggles and rattles around SO much that even getting proper tension on it can be a PITA... In those cases, feedback can be barely felt...

My advice with a mounted Weiser, especially knobsets, is to sit down on something, a chair, step stool, a toolbox, etc... Steady yourself first. Then, take a good firm grasp of the knob to keep IT steady (keeping your thumb or index finger free to keep tension) then use either your thumb or index finger (whichever is not holding tension) to keep the face plate steady in the knob (as this is how you pull the lock body to rekey it, and it may wiggle around in the knob). Do this regardless of if you're raking or SPPing (I usually just rake them, but some you may have to SSP, so practice both) When you visualize the pins, remember they're quite flat on the bottom (as opposed to a higher quality lock, which have a fairly good point at the bottom and are completely flat on top) and usually chamfered (rounded) on both the top and bottom (which makes them pretty much reversible at the factory and hence cheaper to put together, but also increases the usable sheer line, which makes them easier to pick.)

Also you should know, the body of almost all the locks in Weiser knobsets is fairly soft PLASTIC... This means they are VERY prone to becoming distorted through poor service, because someone tried to force it open, or because someone has continuously tried to open it with the wrong key. If that's happened (and if it's not an "out of the box, new lock" it's a possibility) it MAY not be possible to open, even with the proper key.

Good luck and just be patient, you'll get the hang of it... Once you do, they'll get easier and easier...

D.

[SavhD]

Another quick note... I have NEVER seen a factory Weiser with any sort of security pins.. and I would never suggest them in knobsets BECALUSE of the plastic body. It's a $20 dollar lock (customer cost) and I usually wouldn't even suggest rekeying them (as its gonna be cheaper to just replace) Still, I've had some odd customers so anything's possible.

[ALLS London]

sorry, the dead horse is just begging to be beaten here-

as of about 3 years ago, kwikset and weiser are the same thing, different names. the weiser locks don't even have their own keyway anymore, its all KW1.

the smartkey system makes picking and bumping very difficult, as it doesn't have traditional spring drivers. the may (?) 2007 Locksmith Ledger has a great article on their construction.

their older 'traditional' locks are quite easy to pick, as they have a flat milled into the top of the plug which turns the shear line into a shear canyon.

if you don't HAVE to try and pick it, don't waste your time. it's more frustration than it's worth.

[361862913]

Hi, Im new to electronic pick guns. Im having problems with one of my Weiser deadbolt(the one without smart key). I cant find my key to it, so i wanna use my Southord electronic pick gun, but somehow dont know how to use it. so please tell me some ideas about how to use a Southord electronic pickgun on a Weiser deadbolt. Thank you so much

[2octops]

so please tell me some ideas about how to use a Southord electronic pickgun on a Weiser deadbolt. Thank you so much

The same way that you would use it on any other lock.

Didn't yours come with directions?

[361862913]

so please tell me some ideas about how to use a Southord electronic pickgun on a Weiser deadbolt. Thank you so much

The same way that you would use it on any other lock.

Didn't yours come with directions?

Yes it came with directions, but didnt understand it. Do u have any suggestions?