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Keying locks after picking

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Keying locks after picking

Postby julienl07 » 14 Jan 2011 23:50

Please do see. I have been dying to show someone (other than my mother who is uninterested). Hopefully you guys appreciate it.

http://jl11.webs.com/locks/locks.htm

After picking a lock that I find I go and buy a blank and file it down to size so that the pins sit level.

Hopefully someone likes the Schlage lock. I will be putting up more photos and pages in time.
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Re: Keying locks after picking

Postby LocksmithArmy » 15 Jan 2011 0:20

well u said at the end of ur schlage article that its high security.... its not, just restricted... i have made keys for restricted keyways often in this exact manner... althouth i usually start with keys that fit the hight and have more profile width and i grind off the width, ive never soldered the hight to make it fit, great idea.

and the smaller holes on ur other plug are for construction keying where they put ball bearings in the locks and the construction workers have a master key that opens the locks to sheer with the ball bearings on the keypins... when the user puts his key in it sheers just above the keypins and below the bearings sothat when you turn the plug the balls fal into those holes and the construction key never works again...

1 word of advice... it seems all ur locks are aquired by illicent means... get some locks off the shelf at ur hardware store... stop gankin em off abandond stuff.
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Re: Keying locks after picking

Postby raimundo » 15 Jan 2011 10:15

less filing if you keep a can of old cut keys and a plastic pill bottle full of various pins and springs from salvage.

this way, you find a key that is presumably cut to a factory spec. and just locate some pins to fit the bitting.

with luck, you are only doing an assembly job, no filing necessary.

you can also file pins to fit key in plug if you do not wish to cut the key any lower.
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Re: Keying locks after picking

Postby yono » 19 Jan 2011 5:12

hi julien107, good pic and strong drive on your project, i am one of those many guys here that appreciate your effort. keep on it pal. and welcome to the site. regards.
hi everyone, im glad to be a member of this very interesting community, our community of locksmiths. i hope i could help others, within my ability, and hope you can help me too, God bless us all fellow locksmiths.
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Re: Keying locks after picking

Postby n2oah » 19 Jan 2011 10:54

LocksmithArmy wrote:well u said at the end of ur schlage article that its high security.... its not, just restricted... i have made keys for restricted keyways often in this exact manner... althouth i usually start with keys that fit the hight and have more profile width and i grind off the width, ive never soldered the hight to make it fit, great idea.

1 word of advice... it seems all ur locks are aquired by illicent means... get some locks off the shelf at ur hardware store... stop gankin em off abandond stuff.


I agree with your advice. It is not only frowned upon by the locksport community, but also illegal to take unlocked locks off of a hasp. It's a different story if you find a lock in the middle of the road, but don't take locks that are clearly being used. The locksmith has every right to be suspicious of you, walking into a shop and asking for restricted blanks is a big no-no (some will even get suspicious if you ask them for blanks at all).
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Re: Keying locks after picking

Postby Evan » 19 Jan 2011 12:38

julienl07 wrote:Please do see. I have been dying to show someone (other than my mother who is uninterested). Hopefully you guys appreciate it.

http://jl11.webs.com/locks/locks.htm

After picking a lock that I find I go and buy a blank and file it down to size so that the pins sit level.

Hopefully someone likes the Schlage lock. I will be putting up more photos and pages in time.



Your website is interesting to be sure...

However, without seeing a picture of the front of the keyway on your "restricted" Schlage padlock it is difficult to tell whether or not you actually have such a thing or if it is just something beyond the three most common schlage keyways that a hardware store wouldn't have any reason to need to keep in stock...

Take a picture of the padlock showing the keyway and post it on your website, there are quite a few people on here who would be able to tell you what kind of Schlage animal it is from just a properly taken photo...

~~ Evan
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Re: Keying locks after picking

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 19 Jan 2011 17:30

It's an Ilco 1098M/B1 which is a Briggs and Straton keyway. They key itself is essentially a short and slightly smaller "C" Schlage key. He filed at the shoulder area because it's shorter than a 6 pin version of a "C" blank. By doing so, he was able to compensate for the difference. Nothing special or spectacular but commendable if he's just a hobbyist doing this on his own.
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