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making lock picks with just hand files

When it comes down to it there is nothing better than manual tools for your Lock pick Set, whether they be retail, homebrew, macgyver style. DIY'ers look here.

making lock picks with just hand files

Postby shortlineflyer » 7 Feb 2011 20:20

I am still new to lock picking. Ive just started recently, making lock picks out of hack saw blades and hand files. I was wondering if anyone else has made lockpicks like this and if anyone has any special techniques for using files and if there are any files that they like to use?


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Re: making lock picks with just hand files

Postby WolfSpring » 7 Feb 2011 20:41

I have made a few in the last couple weeks with just files, but I use drain snake. It takes me a while, at least an hour per pick I make just to file them down. Also use sandpaper to finish them. I have a medium flat file and fine round file and it's all I really use. It just takes a ton of time and patience but they come out pretty good.
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Re: making lock picks with just hand files

Postby MBI » 7 Feb 2011 21:57

shortlineflyer wrote:I am still new to lock picking. Ive just started recently, making lock picks out of hack saw blades and hand files. I was wondering if anyone else has made lockpicks like this and if anyone has any special techniques for using files and if there are any files that they like to use?


thank you
slf


Welcome to the site. Take some time, read the forums. Especially the stickies. There are dozens of posts giving advice on making picks, covering materials used, the tools to make them and how to give them a final polish.

On the rare occasion that I need to make or modify a pick these days, I usually use hand tools such as a round chainsaw file, triangular file, Eze-Lap diamond hones and a cheapie $2 set of needle files from Harbor Freight. After that, it gets lots and lots of wet sanding. Hacksaw blades are popular but I tend to use flat stainless steel wire (such as in windshield wiper inserts) and bulk rolls of stainless steel feeler gauge material.
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Re: making lock picks with just hand files

Postby Solomon » 8 Feb 2011 7:24

I tried hand filing hacksaw blades before... you really need to put your back into it and it takes forever, especially getting through the teeth. If you wanna use hand files I'd suggest a softer material like wiper inserts, sweeper bristles or drain snake. If you insist on using hacksaw blades then get a bench grinder or dremel, you'll be glad you did. Can pick up a bench grinder for mega cheap so there's no excuse not to. :)
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Re: making lock picks with just hand files

Postby shortlineflyer » 8 Feb 2011 20:59

has anyone ever used diamond files
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Re: making lock picks with just hand files

Postby MBI » 8 Feb 2011 22:35

shortlineflyer wrote:has anyone ever used diamond files


Yes, as I mentioned above most of the ones I use are made by Eze-Lap. I have a few flat ones in different grits and a couple of different diameter round ones. They're not the lowest priced, but I'm happy with them.

When they're new, on the first few dozen uses some of the grit starts to rub off. So a rough stone sort of becomes a medium, a medium becomes a fine, and so on. Once this initial phase passes they seem to maintain their grit level very well. I bought my first one back in the 80's and it still works great. You can remove material with them pretty quickly if you want to by adjusting how much pressure you use.

I've tried a handful of cheaper brand diamond hones over the years and most of them tend to wear out rather quickly.
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Re: making lock picks with just hand files

Postby shortlineflyer » 9 Feb 2011 10:31

where did you buy those files?
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Re: making lock picks with just hand files

Postby Oldfast » 9 Feb 2011 21:31

Making your own picks is rather fun and quite addictive actually. It can be tedious but very gratifying.

Although a bench grinder or dremel tool can help speed the process, they are by no means a "must have". A couple of files and some sandpaper of various grits will do just fine and produce the same results. Just get very close to the shape you want using your files and the sanding process will do the rest. If your strictly working with hand files though, I too would suggest (as already mentioned) that you try using wiper inserts. Reason being- much less excess metal to be filed off.

My local junkyard lets me take a few for free every couple of weeks. But, if your hard up, go to Walmart and buy one for $2-3. One wiper will give you two inserts; enough for several picks and a few tensors. The brand with the widest inserts I've come across is "Anco".

I usually go to HomeDepot or Lowes for sandpaper. Your looking for the black stuff. What I buy is the
"Silicon Carbide Sandpaper-WetorDry" (please, someone chime in if there's a better choice- I'd like to know too). As far as what grit: 200,400,600,800, and 1000 grit seems to be the normal progression most people use. Just to give you an idea, it might take you around 45mins - 1hr to sand one pick. Personally, I use the 200-800 grit dry, then finish off by wet-sanding with the 1000 grit. Normally takes me well over an hour, but then again, I'm a little obsessive :D Hope this helps & have fun!
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Re: making lock picks with just hand files

Postby MBI » 10 Feb 2011 2:10

shortlineflyer wrote:where did you buy those files?


The first one I just bought at a knife store in a mall. I didn't know a thing about them at the time, it just looked like a good idea. It wasn't until I tried out some other brands in later years that I discovered what a good purchase I had made on the first one.

Most of the ones I bought later when I worked for a distributor who carried them. Since I was able to get them at a decent discount I went a bit wild and bought a big assortment.

If you're looking to buy one, just plug "Eze-Lap" into a search engine.
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