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Replacing deadbolt pins with security pins (for practicing)

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Replacing deadbolt pins with security pins (for practicing)

Postby MrGlass » 9 Feb 2011 20:42

I want to learn how to pick security pins. Specifically, I own a padlock with mushroom pins thats taunting me. I know the theory, but I just can't get it to work. I think if I can practice with a smaller number of pins I can learn the theory and move up.

I spoke with a TOOOL member at shmoocon, and they recommended picking up a deadbolt and putting my own security pins in it, so that I can add pins as I get better. I purchased a deadbolt (standard kwikset) today, but I can't find a place online to buy the security pins. Anyone know a discount retailer I can head to?
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Re: Replacing deadbolt pins with security pins (for practici

Postby Squelchtone » 9 Feb 2011 21:18

MrGlass wrote:I want to learn how to pick security pins. Specifically, I own a padlock with mushroom pins thats taunting me. I know the theory, but I just can't get it to work. I think if I can practice with a smaller number of pins I can learn the theory and move up.

I spoke with a TOOOL member at shmoocon, and they recommended picking up a deadbolt and putting my own security pins in it, so that I can add pins as I get better. I purchased a deadbolt (standard kwikset) today, but I can't find a place online to buy the security pins. Anyone know a discount retailer I can head to?


Hi, and welcome to the forum. if you have a Walmart near by for $12 you can buy a Brinks (Kwikset KW1 keyway clone) and it will have spool shaped security pins inside. If you buy the double sided cylinder for like $15, you'll have spare pins to work with.

CLKsupplies.com sells bags of spool pins online. I've purchased from them before.
http://www.clksupplies.com/shop/product_info.php?products_id=1212

Enjoy your picking!
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Re: Replacing deadbolt pins with security pins (for practici

Postby MrGlass » 9 Feb 2011 22:55

Thanks! unfortunately, there isn't a walmart near me. I already purchased a Kwikset 96600-580 (if that isn't clear, i bought this one on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... fresh=true).

I can't seem the find mushroom pins listed anywhere online. I know when I looked into my padlock, I found postings saying it was mushroom pins. Should I give up on finding mushroom pins for this deadbolt and just buy the spools?

I took a look around that site, and they actually have two different listing for kwikset spool pins. Do I need #1 or #2?


P.S. I know you guys get a lot of people trying to break other peoples locks. I bought this padlock from TOOOL at defcon this summer, and have not been able to pick it. I handed it to a bunch of people at the con (mostly whoever was sitting next to me) and no one could get it. I am quite frustrated with this and now determined to pick it, which is why I want to get as close as possible for the practice.
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Re: Replacing deadbolt pins with security pins (for practici

Postby Raymond » 10 Feb 2011 0:44

Look back in "Got Questions", 8-27-2010, "where can you buy spool pins".
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Re: Replacing deadbolt pins with security pins (for practici

Postby MrGlass » 10 Feb 2011 9:45

Raymond wrote:Look back in "Got Questions", 8-27-2010, "where can you buy spool pins".

Sadly, I don't have a dremel, so purchasing some pins is my best bet.
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Re: Replacing deadbolt pins with security pins (for practici

Postby 074KU » 14 Dec 2011 1:04

I am in the same boat Where I live (Australia) it seems that local locksmiths are unprepared to sell these pins, one even tried to claim that it was illegal to sell them to me. One fellow became outright hostile when I asked for the pins. The magic words "Security pins" in the same sentence as "buy" where I live seems to turn the local locksmiths into raving lunatics... with the exception of just one man who was kind enough to explian the why of it.

Basically they want the money for doing the repinning job, $80 at the store I was in at the time as opposed to the $20 ($5 a pin I offered... nearly the price of a 100 pack each!) he would have recieved for just selling me the pins...

WTF?
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