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Foley-Belsaw Lesson 7 TIP (impression a warded lock)

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Foley-Belsaw Lesson 7 TIP (impression a warded lock)

Postby WolfSpring » 17 Dec 2010 12:11

Foley Belsaw lesson 7 instructs you how to impression a warded lock. I've gotten good at impressioning pin tumber american pad locks and have all the equipment to do so, including a key holder.

TIP: Do not use a key holder and put the bow of the key flush to the key holder for this lesson.

I did that first try got great marks, started like they said just a line accross the top and it marked again so I went ahead and cut, kept making great marks, but i ignored the marks near the tip, didnt' even see them till i went to test the key. I had about 1/4 inch of the key into the holder so it was not going all the way in....

Just a little friendly tip for that lesson.
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Re: Foley-Belsaw Lesson 7 TIP (impression a warded lock)

Postby Theist17 » 1 Jan 2011 15:33

WolfSpring wrote:TIP: Do not use a key holder and put the bow of the key flush to the key holder for this lesson.


So, what you're saying is that I should use a key holder, but the bow should be flush to the key holder I'm not using?

Something seems amiss here. Am I just being dense?
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Re: Foley-Belsaw Lesson 7 TIP (impression a warded lock)

Postby criminalhate » 5 Jan 2011 15:40

WolfSpring wrote:TIP: Do not use a key holder or put the bow of the key flush to the key holder for this lesson.


I probably would have done that too if I hadn't been to lazy to go get the impressioning tool from the garage.

Theist17 wrote:Something seems amiss here. Am I just being dense?


Not dense just reading to far into it (or being a smarty pants). I fixed it so it should make sense now.
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Re: Foley-Belsaw Lesson 7 TIP (impression a warded lock)

Postby Pandawdy » 13 Feb 2011 13:48

What is a key holder?

I think I did that lesson and I was impressioning a Master warded pad lock. Is that the same lesson?

I really didn't have any problem with it, other than it taking quite a while with the small file that was included.

I believe there is another lesson later on in the course that requires impressioning a pin tumbler lock. I'm sure that will be more challenging.
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Re: Foley-Belsaw Lesson 7 TIP (impression a warded lock)

Postby Eyes_Only » 15 Feb 2011 20:45

Pandawdy wrote:I believe there is another lesson later on in the course that requires impressioning a pin tumbler lock. I'm sure that will be more challenging.


Not really. I'd have to find my FB lessons to be 100% sure but I think the pin tumbler impressioning lesson only requires you to impression a Schlage type lock with only 3 pin stacks. :roll:
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Re: Foley-Belsaw Lesson 7 TIP (impression a warded lock)

Postby Pandawdy » 16 Feb 2011 14:11

How long ago did you do the course?

I know at one point in time they required you to do work and send the work back.

I'm up to lesson 20, waiting on the next set of lessons to come.

I haven't had to send anything back yet. I'm not sure that I'll ever have to.

My last set of lessons has me tracing the outline of a hand filed key on one of the answer cards rather than sending in the key.

I'm thinking they just don't care to check the hands on work anymore
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Re: Foley-Belsaw Lesson 7 TIP (impression a warded lock)

Postby Eyes_Only » 16 Feb 2011 20:57

I took it about 5 years ago. And I just found the instruction book that covers the impressioning part. It says that pin stacks number 2 and 4 has been removed from the practice lock you get with the lesson, so I guess I remembered it right. It only has pin stacks #1, 3 and 5. :(
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