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new---where to start

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new---where to start

Postby rlc1970 » 5 Nov 2010 13:06

Hi everyone,

I'm new to this forum and have poked around a bit. I am interested in locksmithing for a living and am looking into Penn Foster and Foley Belsaw for training. I would look into apprenticeship aith a locksmith however there are none within 30 miles. That right there is sort of a good thing if I were starting a business but I would think I would need a bit of experience first.

A little of my background: when I was younger I worked in a hardware store where I cut keys and re-keyed Kwikset locks after which I spent 11 years in spam Security in Las Vegas. While working in Las Vegas I kinda became interested in locksmithing as at the time we had a locksmith that worked at our hotel. I can't remember why i never pursued my interest.

Anyhow what would be a good way to get started?
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Re: new---where to start

Postby MacGyver101 » 5 Nov 2010 15:41

rlc1970 wrote:. . . I spent 11 years in spam Security in Las Vegas . . .

Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of advice that I can offer on locksmithing in your area... but, just for anyone else who is wondering, the forum software automatically changes the word "spam" to "spam". :lol:
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Re: new---where to start

Postby corey2444 » 6 Nov 2010 19:20

There's a guy in Vegas there that makes videos called

http://locksmithvideoschool.com/.

There's an Expo next Thursday from 10am - 2pm at the Orleans Hotel held by Intermountain.

http://www.imlss.com/images/lv_expo/LV1 ... isting.pdf

I suggest Locksmithvideoschool.com for your basics, and get hired by a big locksmith shop.

You're looking at investing at least 10k for the basics. You will need a lot more tools/inventory as you go. It's not an inexpensive business by any means.

If you decide you want to go all out, get what you need, and get sub contracted by as many locksmiths as you can. It's slow, but not too slow for the guys shelling out the $$$ for advertising. The last thing you want to do right away is shell out $$$ for advertising and not know how to take apart locks, or be ill equipped to do a job.
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Re: new---where to start

Postby globallockytoo » 7 Nov 2010 14:55

corey2444 wrote:
You're looking at investing at least 10k for the basics. You will need a lot more tools/inventory as you go. It's not an inexpensive business by any means.

If you decide you want to go all out, get what you need, and get sub contracted by as many locksmiths as you can. It's slow, but not too slow for the guys shelling out the $$$ for advertising. The last thing you want to do right away is shell out $$$ for advertising and not know how to take apart locks, or be ill equipped to do a job.


Couldnt be more true. It is very slow at the moment unless you are prepared to shell out big bucks for advertising.

I know some of the longer established businesses are still thriving, specifically brick and mortar businesses. Mobile only is suffering big time. I know a guy near me that spends $10K a month in advertising and he is not even making enough to cover costs, he told me that the last 2 months are the quiestest in the last 3 years.

For me, the last 2 weeks have been almost dead as a doornail and now that winter is coming, it will get more quiet. There have been very very few calls, even lockouts have gone quiet. Last two weeks I have done 6 jobs total, that is about 80% under the average.

There is a system that supposedly helps determine if there is enough business in your area to support a locksmith business. In a nutshell, you need a population of about 200K to support you and allow you to make a quid. If you sell $0.50 to every one of those 200K, every year, you will take $100K a year. Your operating costs are calculated after your initial startup expenses. Initial startup, if you intend to do automotive too, expect to spend up to $40K to start up.
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Re: new---where to start

Postby rlc1970 » 8 Nov 2010 13:54

Well my plan wasn't to start a major business. I'm looking at maybe trying to get a job at an established locksmith, maybe do some odd jobs around where I live in my part time to help pay for the courses and build up tools and supplies. Eventually would like to go full time and work at something I enjoy as opposed to what I do now.
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Re: new---where to start

Postby valentin_84 » 21 Feb 2011 0:02

Hi everyone:
I start working as a subcontractor locksmith 10 years ago for a bigger locksmith co. at nights and weekends while I had full time job, and after 2 years I have got my own license and started a small advertising in a local phone book.

Five years latter I finally reduced my original full time job to a par time and continue working to build up my business after work, weekends and holidays.

Ten years latter I still have my original PT job and my locksmith business is slowly goring true this economy and I'm still not comfortable to count on the locksmith business only.
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Re: new---where to start

Postby Tyler J. Thomas » 21 Feb 2011 13:17

See if there is a Pop-A-Lock franchise nearby. They'll hire you with or without experience and teach you what you need to know. Go from there.
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Re: new---where to start

Postby NewSBowner » 24 Feb 2011 20:31

I commend you chasing your dream. My fiance and I recently purchased a small business, and it can be a daunting task. I think your mindset has you set up for success immediately. The ability to do something you love is what breeds success, hence why we purchased this small business. It is not a locksmith business, but I like to talk to business owners from other industries to see what they are about.
Where do you think customers look for business? Do they use angies list, the phone book or word of mouth?
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