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mul-t-lock

European hardware -lever locks, profile cylinders specific for European locks. European lock picks and European locks.

mul-t-lock

Postby jbubbubs » 27 Feb 2011 13:48

I need some advice i got my first mul-t-lock and i tried my normal south0rd picks with no luck at picking it

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Which picks would i need to learn to pick this type of lock

which one of these would be best

http://www.ukbumpkeys.com/product_Mul-T-Lock-%28Garrison%29-dimple-bump-key_1863_index.php#

or would this work better?

http://www.ukbumpkeys.com/product_GOSO-Dedicated-Dimple-Picks_1883_index.php

are they tough to pick. I have read that they have a pin within a pin.
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby Squelchtone » 27 Feb 2011 15:47

You know how on your first post in December you said people may not want to help a new member... we also don't like giving advice on picking locks that look like they're attached to something or securing something. Can you zoom out on this pic and show us what kind of lock this is? We see too many washing machines, Coke machines, tool boxes, and other close ups and most of the time the person isn't looking to learn picking, but simply wanting to get into that 1 particular lock just for the sake of getting in to whatever it is protecting.

Hope you can appreciate where we're coming from.
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby jbubbubs » 27 Feb 2011 16:54

One thing i love about this place "even though i was registered on here about two years ago"
"lost my login details" you still are funny about helping other genuine lock pickers.

i am offended.

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I do not care if you do or do not help. I will just try picking this lock with my south0rd tubular picks
and hope i just dont break them. I heard you can pick them with a few picks from the south0rd set.

if i was a criminal i would just drill out the lock ,use termite or maybe gunpowder which would be way less effort them picking this lock.

P.S i posted in this section before about the squire LP9 and master locks back when i had my other login working.

"whats up with password reset" :(
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby Squelchtone » 27 Feb 2011 19:27

jbubbubs wrote:One thing i love about this place "even though i was registered on here about two years ago"
"lost my login details" you still are funny about helping other genuine lock pickers.

i am offended.



Genuine lock pickers don't post super close ups of a lock mounted in a metal place and a link to a bump key asking if that will open the lock. I honestly do not care if you are offended, it just means you missed the point and cannot bring yourself to see it as everyone else here would see it. As to who you were 2 years ago, I don't remember your user name so all trust is lost to time. Point me to your old threads, I'll gladly read them, and give you all the props and respect you deserve.

Thanks for posting the other pic though, you should have just posted that to begin with. Maybe I'll start a thread of all the cell phone camera pics people have posted of their university door locks, roof top access hatchways, utility room doors, washing and dryer machines, coke machines, snack machines, etc, etc, it would probably be a funny thread to see how similar all the pics look and all the tall tales those people told us before we called them out on it. (not saying you're in that bunch, but when you see some of these old threads, you'll know where i was coming from)

Now, I'm sure you want me to bugger off, so I'll let some of the more helpful folks here help you open that lock. Ciao!

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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby vov35 » 27 Feb 2011 21:03

Mul-t-lock goes in advanced anyway :roll:


read up on how bumpkeys work, brosef stalin.
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby vov35 » 27 Feb 2011 21:17

In fact, I'll help you on your quest for more information by sending you to the lockwiki.
http://www.lockwiki.com/index.php/Mul-T-Lock


also this website is pretty good:
http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/mul-t-lock/

Now I hope you've actually gained something from this intellectually.
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby jbubbubs » 28 Feb 2011 4:35

Here is my original topic

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=46739&hilit=squire+lp9

antaean3000 cant login. Tried to reset it

the very first lock i picked was the squire lp9 and since then iv opened master locks ,yale high security locks
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby raimundo » 1 Mar 2011 9:41

squelchy, your mellowing, the first response to this guy was softer than you used to be.
the photo shows a lock on some drawer with a bit of metal frame on the lower corner.

To the OP, use the termite or the gunpowder, and then post photos of it, we've never seen the results of these methods.
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby Evan » 1 Mar 2011 10:13

raimundo wrote:squelchy, your mellowing, the first response to this guy was softer than you used to be.
the photo shows a lock on some drawer with a bit of metal frame on the lower corner.

To the OP, use the termite or the gunpowder, and then post photos of it, we've never seen the results of these methods.



Me thinks it is much more likely to be a lock installed on a wooden door hung in a metal frame that the photographer took a picture of by tilting the camera 90 degrees from horizontal...

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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby Varjeal » 1 Mar 2011 13:18

What Evan said...this lock is mounted on a door, and obviously this topic would belong in advanced anyways...go ahead with your southord picks, your termite, AND your gunpowder...all at the same time please.
*insert witty comment here*
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby mhole » 1 Mar 2011 14:44

yep, this lock is fitted to a mul-t-lock door. It's one of the multi point locking doors which made the company famous, with 4 way locking into a steel frame.

This is not something you would be picking recreationally.
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby vov35 » 2 Mar 2011 18:09

mhole wrote:This is not something you would be picking recreationally.


Running from police is an excellent form of recreation! :lol:
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby Evan » 2 Mar 2011 20:52

mhole wrote:yep, this lock is fitted to a mul-t-lock door. It's one of the multi point locking doors which made the company famous, with 4 way locking into a steel frame.



@mhole:

I am curious as to how you can determine that ? Is that plate and the shape of the cylinder what gives that away ?

I have only seen a few mul-t-locks myself, they were all mortise or rim cylinders in standard lock cases or exit hardware...

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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby mhole » 3 Mar 2011 14:08

The plate and anti-snap cover are only found on the mul-t-lock doors. Hiding behind that cover is a euro-cylinder with a 10 or 13 toothed wheel instead of a conventional cam, which operates a 4 way locking system - 3 or 4 bolts next to the cylinder, 1 in the centre on the hinge side, and 1 each locking vertically above and below the cylinder.
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Re: mul-t-lock

Postby Evan » 3 Mar 2011 21:07

@mhole:

Ok... I have seen older multi-point locks before... Just not one whose cylinder is that close to the latch side of the door...

I have seen a Police Fox Lock - double bar - which locks across the door from latch side to hinge side with bars operated by a rim cylinder mounted in the center of the door... I know that a four bar lock was made that also locked vertically but again the rim cylinder was typically mounted in the center of the door...

Wouldn't having the lock too close to one side or the other on the door make the opposite side of the door more vulnerable to determined attacker ? Just curious...

Thanks for the info about identifying this type of mul-t-lock, it is something that I had not seen before...

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