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Key Duplicator Bump Keys

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Key Duplicator Bump Keys

Postby UnlockD » 11 May 2011 0:00

I recently purchased a Key Duplicator, blanks, and a large assortment of miscuts.
Using other keys I already had plus some of the useable miscuts, I was able to make a working bump key. I was wondering two things - has anyone done this and had any luck, and if I measured it out correctly, would this key be able to be copied onto other blanks? I've tried with no success, on any blanks other then a WR5.
I'd appreciate any input,
Thanks.
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Re: Key Duplicator Bump Keys

Postby Wizer » 11 May 2011 3:32

It should work fine, IF the spacing and the deepest cut are same in another lock. Usually they are not.
You need to make a special bumpkey for every lock. Sometimes spacing is the same on different locks, but its usually just two different keyways on a same brand of lock.
Hope this helps.
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Re: Key Duplicator Bump Keys

Postby raimundo » 11 May 2011 10:45

certain keyways that are out of patent protection such as the yale #1 varients, appear on different locks, but this does not mean that the plug its cut into is the same diameter as the other yale #1 types you may see, so a bump key can be cut too low for a lock that does not drill to the same depth as another lock. One brand may have eight depths for pins and another might have a 9th depth, all on a similiar keyway in different brands of locks.

that said, bump keys do not fit the locks they are used on, they also don't have too. this applies to the pin spacing as well as the pin depth,

a bump key that is off spacing but right on the depth, could easily work on many locks, only where the deepest pins are interfered with and prevented from setting by a tooth on the bump key is it a problem,

most locks do not have that many really deep pins,

as always, bumping is not just a minor skill, it also requires a bit of luck and there is no reason that being off the spacing won't work most of the time.
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