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The Mule

Having read the FAQ's you are still unfulfilled and seek more enlightenment, so post your general lock picking questions here.
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The Mule

Postby Solo_Sneaker » 20 Sep 2004 1:56

First let me say that I am new to this site, and it is a great resource. TSCM, phsyical and electronic security have been hobbies of mine for about 5 years.

Anyway - has anyone ever actually used a mule. I have been searching for one to try , or just wanting to talk to someone that has.

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Postby Romstar » 20 Sep 2004 2:18

Okay, I admit it. You got me on this one.

What do you mean by a mule? Maybe I have heard of it, or used it but had it called something else.

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Postby WhiteHat » 20 Sep 2004 2:37

initially I thought of the bad dude in Asimov's foundation series....

then I searched and found that it was more likely a gate opening tool (brute force)... http://www.contractorstools.com/gto.html

or some sort of hydraulic lift...
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Postby Romstar » 20 Sep 2004 2:59

Door spreaders lack a certain sort of finesse if you ask me. Not to mention that they can damage the door frame.

I'd consider them a tool of last resort.

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Postby CaptHook » 20 Sep 2004 3:59

Or is it a street kid to carry "cargo".......... :shock: :lol:
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Postby Luke » 20 Sep 2004 4:48

U dont have streets in Alaska!!
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Postby Solo_Sneaker » 20 Sep 2004 12:37

Actually, it is a door opening tool that does not involve brute force or picking.

It has series of thin lines, hooks, and straps. They use them at hotels, and sometimes at universities, for when the door is locked, but the cylinder has been damaged(superglue etc...), and they need immediate access to the room. I first saw it in a lockpicking video about 5 years ago.

I have a clip, but it is from a copyrighted vid. Would it be ok to post just a few seconds of it in action? Being new here I do not wanna step on any rules.
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Postby Chucklz » 20 Sep 2004 15:55

Your best bet, at least legally, would be to post a careful description of the tool and its use.
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Postby Varjeal » 20 Sep 2004 18:13

Chucklz: What's a legal description for the use of a mule? I think he's on the wrong site. ;)
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Postby raimundo » 20 Sep 2004 18:58

in his second post I think I figured it out, hotels and universities have ADA hardware (americans with disabilities act) which means lever handles not knobs. its a bit like automotive bypass tools, the wire is put under or over the door, and a loop of innertube is lassoed to the lever handle, then the string is pulled and the door is opened as if from the inside. Never heard it called a mule, A mule is a columbian with balloons of marching powder in his stomach.
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Postby Buggs41 » 20 Sep 2004 20:32

I have seen this tool in the FB catalog. They will only sell it to licensed locksmiths, or law enforcement personnel.
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Postby CaptHook » 20 Sep 2004 20:56

You mean the keedex k-22? Its a useful tool some of the time,I learned a few monthes back that it can even be used on knobs, you need to make modifications, but its a pretty slick idea.
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Postby Chucklz » 20 Sep 2004 21:34

Ahh yes. I've always heard of this as an "under the door" tool. It seemed like an interesting thing to play with, but certainly not an item that could ever be justified as a hobbiest.
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Postby Cypherninja » 21 Sep 2004 11:57

Ah yes, I saw that in the FB catalog, too. I was flipping through when I first got it and was like :shock:. Its like one of those auto entry tools, but for a house. :lol:
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Postby Solo_Sneaker » 21 Sep 2004 22:58

That must be similar. The one I saw, could open knobs, handles, as well as being able to turn deadbolts, as long as it was not a twin/double cylinder.
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