LocksmithArmy wrote:ofcourse i base my jugments on my expieriences with the technique you dont have to be rud about it...
How am I being rude about it?
if the technique works for every locks u come across go for it but i highly doubt thats the case... you say locks with security pins arnt abundant in the US but on a market like this forum just abot everyone here has locks with security pins and when a noob asks how to pick them they dont answer revers pick it... y is that...
Excuse me if I don't consider an enthusiast communities' stock as an equal demographic with regards to locks.
As for why it's not taught? It's a matter of preference. You can get by most security pins without reverse picking. Absolutely. Some people might never see the need to use it if SPP is working for them. That's fine.
I'm at the mercy of my customers and employer, however. I don't get to hand pick what I have to pick open. I have to learn any and everything I can with regards to picking to cover my ass when I'm out there.
FWIW, I've never taught anyone to reverse pick or even suggest it - you're marvelous deductions would indicate that it doesn't work for me since I'm not RAVING about it.
is it cause its hard to explain... no... its cause spp is far more reliable...
You're acting like we're comparing chocolate to vanilla. Reverse picking wouldn't be advisible in a lot of situations, primarily when security pins are absent. So of course SPP is more reliable, but not at reverse pickings expense.
I mean, I can entertain SPP vs raking all day but to include reverse picking in comparison and using SPP's popularity to downplay reverse pickings significance or practicality? You're just blatantly ignoring the reality of things to support your argument.
the technique doesnt work as often as your arguing...
It does for me, so I don't know what to tell you. Maybe try learning it better? I don't know, but I do know this: your lack of experience in the exercise does not usher in it's death knell so, forgive me if I don't skip a breath when I hear you say you can't get it to work for you.
getting all smart and saying that its a gauranteed way to beat any security pin with no proof other than saying that any possible senerio i throw out is distorted logic wont make a case for you.
I asked you why it wouldn't work and you gave me 3 of the most far fetched scenarios imaginable. There's nothing preventing it from working, save a magically deformed cylinder - even then, I have doubts how much this would really deter it from working.
Tell me where I can get some of these pins, I'll make a video, and show you how its done, fair enough?
if you like it you use it... i use it from time to time... but find little success... if you wanna prove thats how to beat that security pin... make some and do it... xeotech can show you how to make them... and where to get the parts...
I don't have the time to make them but if you do, I will gladly pay for your parts and time involved. If you'd like to send me a cylinder with them in place I will gladly make a video and upload it for all to show you how to reverse pick.
Let's hold the debate until then and let the results be the deciding factor.
You guys make me smile, but allso got me interested in reverse picking.