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Zeiss IKON cylinder question - side pins?

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Zeiss IKON cylinder question - side pins?

Postby solidstate » 19 Aug 2011 13:57

Is it possible to determine if this cylinder uses side pins from the keyway?

http://i810.photobucket.com/albums/zz23/d0001/keyway_sbs_006.jpg

THX
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Re: Zeiss IKON cylinder question - side pins?

Postby LocksmithArmy » 29 Aug 2011 13:00

by the keyway alone...
i dont know enough about ziess ikon to answer that. BUT it should be easy to probe for them to see.

it is possible ziess has keyways that are only specific to locks with side pins, it is also possible their keyways can go on locks with or without side pins (EVVA DPS has special DPS keyways aswell as general EVVA keyways...)

but id just probe for them with a pick...
if you got good light you may be able to see them without probing. that keyway looked pretty open.
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Re: Zeiss IKON cylinder question - side pins?

Postby n0n4m3 » 7 Sep 2011 5:22

I hope that this can help u
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Re: Zeiss IKON cylinder question - side pins?

Postby mh » 7 Sep 2011 15:44

I think it doesn't have side pins.

(Also, it's Zeiss Ikon (spoken: "Tsais Eeecone"), not ziess.)

Cheers
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Re: Zeiss IKON cylinder question - side pins?

Postby SnowyBoy » 27 Dec 2011 21:52

Even if it has side pins they are passive and should cause you no problems if picking. If bumping, then you should mill dimples along the length of the key.
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Re: Zeiss IKON cylinder question - side pins?

Postby ImSchatten360 » 23 Jan 2012 6:16

If this lock has side pins then they should be active.
I have an Ikon Sperrwelle with a quite similar profile and this one has 4 active finger pins.
You should be able to see them on the right side inside the keyway.

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