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by chriswingate » 16 Jul 2011 17:38
Oh yeah, there is a significant amount of rotation when you get it picked to shear and it's hanging up on the check pin.
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by chriswingate » 25 Jul 2011 11:13
Sargent & Greenleaf 833 Military Lock. Got this from Raymond here, he wanted to see if I could get it open so he could replace the core with one that has keys.   Here is the video for it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fQllk2axZM
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by averagejoe » 25 Jul 2011 12:02
Awesome job.
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by Squelchtone » 25 Jul 2011 12:37
kudos chris! job well done! Now I'm gonna have to pick the one I bought on ebay last week on camera this time from start to end, not just the tear down.  Squelchtone
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by FarmerFreak » 25 Aug 2011 22:36
 12.5 pins. 6 on each side and a half a pin in the front/middle of the lock. Picked blind. I don't think this lock is masterkeyed, but I don't feel like tearing it apart right now. ...If anybody wants to question whether or not I can pick these locks blind. Feel free to PM me so you can send me a lock (without keys) so I can pick it and send it back to you! 
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by MBI » 25 Aug 2011 22:44
FarmerFreak wrote:12.5 pins. 6 on each side and a half a pin in the front/middle of the lock. Picked blind. I don't think this lock is masterkeyed, but I don't feel like tearing it apart right now. ...If anybody wants to question whether or not I can pick these locks blind. Feel free to PM me so you can send me a lock (without keys) so I can pick it and send it back to you! 
That is my lock shown in the picture. I can verify he doesn't have the keys to it, in fact has never even seen the keys to it. I got it from the Bilock dealer who was at Defcon in 2008 and was running the lock bumping booth in the hallway outside the lockpicking village. I've never taken it apart so I don't know if it's masterkeyed either, but I don't know why it would be masterkeyed since it was individually packaged for retail sale.
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by femurat » 26 Aug 2011 3:45
Great job FarmerFreak!!! Now I wanna see your tools... I already have a bilock in my to-be-picked box Cheers 
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by MrScruff » 26 Aug 2011 13:31
Today I picked a few filing cabinets at work. Boo ya. It was actually kind of an interesting conversation....
Boss: I need you to do some research on (insert thing here). Me: Okay, that's too old to be stored in this office, it must be in the old one. Boss: Yeah, which means you'll probably need to call someone to get the filing cabinets open since we lost the keys. Me: Actually... I have picks! Boss: Er... seriously?
The only downside is that my boss now knows how easy it is to open a filing cabinet and it made him a little (more) paranoid. hehe
"We all sit around in a circle and suppose, while the secret sits in the center and knows." --Robert Frost
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by Squelchtone » 26 Aug 2011 13:41
MrScruff wrote:Today I picked a few filing cabinets at work. Boo ya. It was actually kind of an interesting conversation....
Boss: I need you to do some research on (insert thing here). Me: Okay, that's too old to be stored in this office, it must be in the old one. Boss: Yeah, which means you'll probably need to call someone to get the filing cabinets open since we lost the keys. Me: Actually... I have picks! Boss: Er... seriously?
The only downside is that my boss now knows how easy it is to open a filing cabinet and it made him a little (more) paranoid. hehe
It would have been better to say, I saw a video on you tube on how to pop them open with office supplies in case of emergency, why dont I grab some paperclips and see what I can do, call you in an hour. This way he would think you're useful, not shady. I'd follow up and say, there's this hobby called locksport and its like solving puzzles, and the people involved all hate thieves and never teach the skills to anyone who seems shady. Squelchtone

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by MrScruff » 30 Aug 2011 14:51
squelchtone wrote:It would have been better to say, I saw a video on you tube on how to pop them open with office supplies in case of emergency, why dont I grab some paperclips and see what I can do, call you in an hour. This way he would think you're useful, not shady.
I'd follow up and say, there's this hobby called locksport and its like solving puzzles, and the people involved all hate thieves and never teach the skills to anyone who seems shady.
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Yeah, your suggestion certainly would have been the more sane way to go about it, but as history has proven I talk a little too much when I get excited.  Though if I wasn't sure I'd still have a job at the end of the day I would have kept my mouth shut. I've been at this job long enough to prove myself as someone who can be trusted and have no intention of jeopardizing that trust. I've brought some infuriating puzzles to work and handle computer security so it wasn't much of a stretch to explain. I stuck with my usual policy of honesty and said I've never picked a lock that was not my own personal property before those filing cabinets and that I just like the challenge of picking. I mean, you're solving a puzzle that doesn't want to be solved; that's a real treat for someone like me. There was a little bit of head-shaking but things came out all right.
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by femurat » 6 Sep 2011 8:14
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by femurat » 6 Sep 2011 8:38
  My very first pump lock! This is a CR serrature core, used in armoured wooden doors, with 6 levers. I used a bent wire as a wrench in the round center hole and my smallest hook to push down the levers on the 2 flat sides. It was not easy since the lock start to turn a little while you pick it, and reaching the levers on the sides becomes more and more difficult. In the second and third pictures you can see the lock turned 180 degrees and then completely rotated. This lock has to be picked 2 times to rotate it completely and make it operable with a key again. The 3 levers on the 2 sides are different, so the key must be entered the correct way. To accomplish this the key blade is a little off centre so it's impossible to insert it upside down. Cheers 
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by averagejoe » 6 Sep 2011 9:07
Very interesting locks you have there. Nice picking.
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by Wizer » 6 Sep 2011 10:01
Cool locks, Femurat! Is the 2nd. viro like... a scandinavian oval cylinder? - nasty bitting There must be lots of Viros over there. Did you know Viro is Finnish for Estonia? I used to think they were CCCP -era locks from there.
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