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HELP WITH YALE LOCK

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HELP WITH YALE LOCK

Postby kidling » 26 Oct 2011 20:51

I'm new here and new to lock picking and I'm trying to open a yale lock. I bought a y1 and y2 bump key but I can't get it to work. I need some advice from anyone about what I'm doing wrong with this bump key because I've tried hitting it with a lot of different pressures and stuff and just can't get it. Please help with anything if there's a different method or anything you can tell me about lock picking. Thanks!
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Re: HELP WITH YALE LOCK

Postby Squelchtone » 26 Oct 2011 22:17

yeah... you're gonna need to tone it down with the HUGE title and the red font... very hard to read..

if you're so desperate to open this Yale lock, please call a locksmith. We can't teach you lock picking or bumping in 5 minutes over the internet, so slow down and tell us what's so urgent. What is the lock mounted to? What's behind the door, and if you could post a photo (paste a link from http://photobucket.com/ or upload to http://tinypic.com/ and paste a URL link here) and we can at least know what model Yale you're talking about so we can maybe help you better.

so anyway, bump keys.. they're not magical, you have to at least know what's happening inside a lock in order to get the timing right. You also have to have a lock in good repair, for all I know this thing is on a 75 year old door and sure, the Y1 key may fit, but who knows what shape the pins and springs are inside and how much gunk is in there? Is this lock mounted to a door, or are you holding it in your hand?

We'll await your photo(s) and then we can reply and offer some more advice.

see you soon,
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Re: HELP WITH YALE LOCK

Postby kidling » 26 Oct 2011 23:47

Well the actual key says its a ya and ill upload the pictures tomorrow. And the lock is at most 40 years old because it's the building was built in the 70's. It's not like I need to get in there I just wanted some advice on what you guys think is the best method of opening a lock. Like I said I'll take a picture of the lock tomorrow and upload it and see if you guys can give me some more information.
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Re: HELP WITH YALE LOCK

Postby Squelchtone » 27 Oct 2011 6:27

If you've never picked or bumped, and you need to get into a lock because of real world reasons, not because you're interested in a fun new hobby, then bumping and picking is probably going to be a waste of your time, money, and effort. I could tell you to go buy a pickset for $20 and spend 4 weeks learning how to pick that Yale, and in a month it will be open, but by then, you might as well pay a locksmith $50-$75 to come open it.

If this is something fun and you like playing James Bond and want to see what's behind that door, and this is your house/office/warehouse/building, then you can fiddle with that lock all you want, and we can give you tips, but if it is your landlord's utility room, or someone else's storage room, it wouldn't be nice to pick that just to see what's in the room, and we try to teach good picking manners here.

As to answer your question, the best way to open it is with the actual key that belongs to that old lock. If that key is lost and not available, and nobody else you know has a copy of it, bumping would be last on my list of ways to open it. Bumping hit the internet a few years ago and it's the equivilant of what hackers refer to as script kiddies. Any 13 year old with a youtube account can bump locks and post some cell phone camera video of it being done, but honestly, bumping is so passe, nobody even cares about it any more. Using real lockpicks and using skill and talent, that's a much cooler way of opening a lock. But like I said in the beginning, if this is just to open this one lock for one time in your life, buying picks and learning is a waste of time.

We'll wait for your pics. Take pic of the whole door, and a close up of the lock, and try to make them in good light and in focus. Thanks.

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Re: HELP WITH YALE LOCK

Postby kidling » 27 Oct 2011 19:57

I don't care what's the new in thing in the lock picking world I just wanted to know the best way you guys thought of opening a lock.
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Re: HELP WITH YALE LOCK

Postby Squelchtone » 27 Oct 2011 20:14

kidling wrote:I don't care what's the new in thing in the lock picking world I just wanted to know the best way you guys thought of opening a lock.


with the correct key.
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Re: HELP WITH YALE LOCK

Postby Evan » 27 Oct 2011 23:30

squelchtone wrote:
kidling wrote:I don't care what's the new in thing in the lock picking world I just wanted to know the best way you guys thought of opening a lock.


with the correct key.


Roars with laughter...

kidling walked right into that one Squelchtone didn't he ?

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Re: HELP WITH YALE LOCK

Postby MrScruff » 28 Oct 2011 9:34

squelchtone wrote:
kidling wrote:I don't care what's the new in thing in the lock picking world I just wanted to know the best way you guys thought of opening a lock.


with the correct key.


Huh, I was convinced laser vision was the way to go.
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