Kaba Lori dimple lock

[Wolf2486]

Recently I've purchased a Kaba dimple lock. I tried picking it and something quite odd happenend. The cylinder turned, as if it was pick, however it will not turn all the way, it turns about 1/4 of a turn. I also cannot get it back into the locked position. Any advice, solutions, ideas, or theories anyone has would be greatly apprecaited. Thank you.

Wolf

[hzatorsk]

Pick it again in the same direction... Although I am not sure which Kaba you have... some locks (including tubular locks) will require multiple picking to get the cylinder through all the possible positions.

[Wolf2486]

I looked inside the lock with a bright light, and did notice that the springs have entered the cylinder. After researching through other sources, I have found that when picking these locks you must block the bottom of the keyway so the pins cannot enter the cylinder through the bottom. The person who I bought the lock, is going to send another for free, and I'll be sure not to make that mistake again.

[salzi684]

I did the exact same thing on the exact same lock. I wonder if we bought them from the same person? Get it off of ladyeite on ebay by any chance?

[Wolf2486]

Yes I did. Did she send you a new one as well? Anyways after doing some research turnes out if you don't put a half key in the after picking it, the pins pop out into the cylinder, so I do not believe it was the ebay seller's fault, but the fault of the manufacturer. I was surprised, however, on how easily picked my lock was.

[salzi684]

No, she didn't send me a new one, as soon as I did it I knew what happened and knew it was my fault. I don't know if I would really consider that to be a fault of Kaba considering that right away the owner of the lock would know if it was tampered with if one of the drivers/springs fell into the keyway. I was also surprised by how easy it was to pick, I only got to do it once because I sheared off one of the springs trying to get the lock working again but, the one time I did pick it, it was my first experience with a Kaba lock and it took at most 1.5 minutes to inspect the lock, come up with a plan of attack, and open it.

[Chucklz]

Is this the kaba with 3 rows of pins, or just one?

[salzi684]

3 rows

[martinger]

3 rows

(also to Wolf): which pickset did you use for it? The Souber Tools dimple set? An other Dimple set? Or a normal hook or even rakes?

Martin

[Wolf2486]

I used a normal hook pick and tension wrench. I found that just by tapping the side pins, I could set them pretty easily.

[salzi684]

First I tried the dimple tools in the Navigator pick set, I couldn't feel the pick engaging the pins very well so I switched over to a small hook, I set most of the pins with the small hook in a short amount of time and it felt like it was picked but, it still wouldn't turn so I gently raked all the pins with a Rytan mini blue diamond and presto.