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An observation about pick handles

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Postby Kodack » 27 Sep 2004 16:38

thertel wrote:I'll try giving it a go in mspaint cus I'm on the road in fort worth, texas this week with my job. I'll see what I can come up with.

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Postby thertel » 27 Sep 2004 16:43

heres a picture
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its the best I can do with only a touchpad.

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Postby Wesson357 » 27 Sep 2004 16:49

It looks like the Rytan picks have a bit of a curve to them, but nothing that distinct.

http://www.rytan.com/cgi-bin/detail.php ... ,%20TYPE-3

Is that kind of what you are talking about?
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Postby Mad Mick » 27 Sep 2004 16:51

I think raimundo was suggesting a twist in the pick blade, and not an upward or downward bend.
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Postby Romstar » 27 Sep 2004 16:54

That is very suggestive of the Rytan picks, and I was planning on offering them with a similar curve.

I think Raimundo was talking about a different type of twist though. I'll have to see what he has to say on the subject as well.

Thanks for that picture, it's very well done with only a touchpad.

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Postby CaptHook » 27 Sep 2004 19:12

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Heres some Rytans compared to HPCs.
I think Raimundo was talking about twisting the shaft of the pick, so that it was in a vertical plane and the handle could be at an angle comfortable for your hand/wrist.
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Postby WhiteHat » 27 Sep 2004 20:18

the navigator set does something similar also. I'm concerned that by increasing the erganomics, the pick makers will be reducing the versitility.

you'll need a different pick handle for each orientation of locks - i.e. "upside down" as is common in Australia and europe. and sideways as tends to be common on those key in handle - y'know those ones that the raptors open in jurassic park - they tend to have the keyway horizontal...
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Postby Buggs41 » 27 Sep 2004 20:35

A twist, instead of a bend?

Heck, many of my 'offsets' bent on conduit do that. Commonly known as a "dog-leg."

Ergonomically, I can see how this could reduce fatigue. At the same time, if you are picking for hours, Just give up, and go home.
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Postby S3rratedSp00L » 29 Sep 2004 7:03

Hmmm... You could make dental pick or exacto knife style picks with a curved handle and possibly be able to rotate the blade as well! :) Or put some sort of formed grip on the handle.

I kinda like the curve and twist ideas both as long as they don't decrease feedback. Twisting the shaft might make the pick slightly springy, which could help for some things like raking. I won't know until I try.. It could be a great experiment though! :)
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Postby hung82000 » 4 Oct 2004 12:55

One option would be like those reversible flat blade/phillips screwdrivers, where you have a hex shaped end that goes into the handle, and you could remove it and rotate it to the needed angle. I would love to have a pick that I could change around easily like that.
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whitehat is right

Postby raimundo » 26 Dec 2004 15:24

Whitehat is right about the ergonomic adaptation being specific to a particul ar mounting position, in fact, of the picks I have made, I find for the europeans, I make them with the points down. On the other hand, you have sets of tools, and probably a favorite tool don't you, perhaps you could ergonomicaly adapt just one of them, for the common mounting in your part of the world. Picks that have straight handles do reverse and work sideways, but its a tradeoff, between the handling and the versatility. Also, Capt Hook and the others are right about what I suggested, it was a twist of the pick shaft so that the fingers can hold the pick vertically, without haveing to hold a verticle handle :)
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